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Elizabeth (Betsy). Twenty-two, almost twenty-three, but perpetually seventeen. Whirls back & forth between vulgarity & delicacies like a dervish proper & has been known to disappear for months on end. Worshipper of Carroll, devotee of Lovecraft & BPAL hoarder absolute. Destined for the madhouse.
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Date: 2009-06-28 08:19 am (UTC)It definitely did, sadly. When she came back in series four, when you DIDN'T see her with Ten (when she shoots the Dalek advancing on Wilf & Sylvia, I think), those were her moments of awesomeness, at least for me. Then she gets reunited with Ten & it's all 'OMG I LOVE YOU OMG I MISSED YOU SO MUCH OMG I LOVE YOOOOU!!!!111' & her kickass factor just drops. Though I liked her walking through the streets of London with that HUGE gun (Ace might have liked that gun, I think!), surveying all the madness & damage around her, then threatening the looters with her gun. Actually, that's one of my favourite bits from Journey's End - 'Do you like my gun?' ::grins:: She had some badassery there for a bit, I think. But yeah, as said, when she gets back to Ten, it's all too sugary & ugh, no fun. & then , as I've seen someone put it, she throws something of a temper tantrum when she goes back to her own universe WITH HER OWN TEN. O, boo-hoo, it isn't the full Time Lord edition!Ten, SHUT UP & BE LUCKY YOU CAN HAVE HIS HALF-HUMAN CLONE, OKAY? I just don't see the need for her whining when SHE HAS HIM, but a bit better - he'll never regenerate & they can be together for a human lifespan. Where's the loss in that?
Actually, back in Three's era she was sort of his assistant and didn't flinch at the mentioning of it - I think it was the status ultimately given to her by the Brig in order to allow her permission to visit the facilities when she so wished, and to stop the top brass at Geneva to assign a new, unwanted assistant to Three.
Hmm, I actually could see that & I like it too! (I haven't seen - well, almost ANYTHING of her time with Three, so maybe I shouldn't talk about it at all) But at the same time, I think she would have guessed that the Doctor was no longer with UNIT (if she was keeping in contact with the Brig or Harry, as I TOTALLY believe she would have), so he would have no need for an assistant by then - he could just travel with people as he pleased. But then again, it HAS been some time since I've seen this episode, so maybe I just need to shut up. Hmm. Either way, it's a good thing to think about I think. Maybe I shall pose it to the flist sometime.
Mostly, it was the fact that they were clearly so excited and amused with everything that was happening around them even though people were dying. I could relate to the Queen's frustration, as she was concerned with the EFFING BIG WEREWOLF trying to murder the lot of them, and those two strangers were so giggly and more concerned with trying to make her say "We are not amused" than in the people dying all around them.
Ah, I remember a bit better now - I'd totally agree now that the (no pun intended!) rose-coloured glasses are off me, that they were acting pretty childish when they SHOULD have been acting more serious & trying to, you know, HELP people, instead of being concerned over their own cheap thrills & silly bets. Yeah, when I look at it from that view, I can get why she was so bothered by them - I think I would have been too. I think if it had been Nine & Rose, it would have been much more serious & exciting, & Nine wouldn't have stood around being a doofus while people are dying around him. & Rose would have been much more kickass, of course. :D
(& also, Ten was SHIT at passing himself off as a Scottish doctor, as I remember - another thing that kind of bothers me when I think about it - Two or One never would have let their assumed identities slip so easily, unlike Ten did, which led to the Queen's distrust of him. But that could just be me.)