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& now, here we go, off on the second three recaps of the great & mighty Troughton rewatch-athon!

The Smugglers

- So this serial picks up from where we left off at the end of The War Machines, with Ben & Polly going into the TARDIS to return One's key to him, then him taking off with them inside. This could be a bit harder to recap, because it's a recon, but I'll do my best!

One seems quite angry to have uninvited guests in his ship this time, but actually, I don't think of him as being angry so much as just very surprised. He says himself he thought he would finally be alone after leaving 1966. I think if he were really angry, he would have made a point of throwing Ben & Polly off the TARDIS right then & there, if they hadn't already demateralised. Also, I doubt he would have explained certain aspects of the TARDIS to them like he did if he was so angry or he was planning on ditching them at some point.

- I love Ben's initial shock when he & Polly are inside the TARDIS for the first time. Polly seems to stay very level headed, even though she's just stepped into a huge room in what she thought was a mere police box. It's a good contrast to Ben's shock & general reactions, I think. She doesn't scream or panic, she just listens & asks questions. Very good on her!

- I am a bit surprised that Ben refuses to believe that he's in a time machine, considering what he just went through with One in The War Machines. But I suppose those were a bit of a different set of circumstances - Ben was in his own time, dealing with something dangerous on his territory, not in an alien land millions of years in the past or future. So his reactions are a bit surprising to me, but also a fair bit understandable.

- Teehee! Polly pinched Ben! Well, he did ask for it, so he can't complain now, eh? ::giggles::

- & of course the Doctor's off to follow them - did you really believe he wouldn't? Did anyone really believe he didn't want to keep Ben & Polly safe?

- Polly's enthusiasm is so cute! & any thoughts I may have had as to One's feelings toward them? All gone, save for that he does want them there!

- O dear . . . seventeenth century?

- Polly doesn't like being called Duchess & she doesn't like being called a lad. But Ben just said one of my favourite lines ever! 'Listen to our little dolly rocker Duchess!' LOVE YA, BEN!

- Polly's pragmatic side is showing & Ben's sarcastic, annoyed side is coming out. But still, v. awesome, the both of them! & I DO love how the first things on Ben's mind is some good beer. ::giggles:: Sailors! ::giggle::

- Ben ready to fight for One! GO BEN! ::waves pompoms:: Seriously, I ♥ Ben even more every minute.

- I quite like how Polly insists that Ben be seen to after somebody finally shows up to help her. & I'm glad Ben wasn't too severely injured!

- ARGH NOW I'M WORRIED FOR ONE DAMMIT. I know he can help himself, but still, I'm worried how he's going to get away from a band of pirates & their ship. ::chews fingers::

- WHAT THE HELL WHY ARE BEN & POLLY BEING ARRESTED. Another reason to worry now! & I am worried if they're going to find out Polly's no boy - that could be quite dangerous for her.

- One is quite brave (& a bit saucy!) when being threatened by pirates! & surprisingly, still dapper-looking even when a bit torn up.

- POLLY LOVES THEIR PREDICAMENT! & Ben's all whiny & sour about it - ha! Polly = the better adventuress of the two, perhaps? But seriously, I love how Polly's the one finding the adventure & excitement in their problem, even if she has been accused of murder & is currently sitting in gaol.

- Wait, Polly's excited one minute, then she's screaming about a rat? EXCUSE ME? Hello, inconsistant writing.

Or maybe not inconsistent, but that bit bugs me a fair bit.

- Ah, but Kickass!Polly returns just a bit later, with her plan of faking witchery! ::grins:: Go Polly, go Polly! But alas, for her good moment, we must have her irritating fear of rats - girl, you're in a seventeenth-century gaol - OF COURSE THERE'LL BE RATS! Don't tell me you expected it to be all nice & clean!

(but really, I blame the writers, not Polly. Silly writers.)

- One's got brains, gentility, & he knows how to work the right people in the write places - I'm jealous of Susan getting to be his granddaughter! I love One's manipulation of Captain Pike by playing to his apparent vanity & his flattery of him. One is a BADASS, I must reiterate!

- Polly's become 'Paul' now & GO GIRL, GO GIRL, PLAY ON SEVENTEENTH-CENTURY FEAR LIKE THAT! ::hugs her:: & Ben is a great accomplice in her plans, I must say. But Polly Wright FTMFW, BITCHES! & YAY, THEY'RE FREE! Thanks to Polly's snappy thinking, of course!

Seriously. I love this girl. She's as worthy a companion to the Doctor as any of her predecessors!

- Ben & Polly playing detective together is kind of cute, actually. & awww, Ben's worried about Polly's safety. ♥

- Ben, while not as sophisticated as One, is pretty good at getting information when he wants it, at least so far.

- Hmm. The Squire sounds a bit like One. Just a note!

- & quite an ending to leave off on - I'm rather worried for Ben & Polly now! Where is One, o, where IS he?!

- OMG, One's telling fortunes now! HOW DOES HE GET MORE AWESOME WITH EVERY SERIAL? & hmm . . . I wonder what One's up to . . . doesn't seem like him, telling fortunes - O! PLOY! V. good show Doctor, v. good show! ::shan't doubt One again::

(but I'd not be surprised if the Doctor knew how to tell fortunes in different ways - even if he's really more a man of science & exploration, that doesn't mean he wouldn't know how to perhaps read a tea leaf or two, or cut a Tarot deck.)

- Phew! At last, Ben & Polly have a partial believer! But a partial believer is better than what they had before - nothing!

- OMG ONE'S BACK!! ::hugs him:: Now, the three of them shall kick some pirate arse!

- Wow. One . . . damn, I haven't even got words, but the fact that he feels so morally obligated & responsible for protecting the village is . . . wow. I am . . . I mean, I know all of the Doctor is like that, but hearing him explain it in such solid terms just blows me away. Not that I didn't expect him to try & save the village, along with Ben & Polly, nor did I expect him to run off & leave the village to its own fate so the three of them could go elsewhere, but I don't think I'd expected him to be so open in explaining his feelings about it to Ben. I really can see Barbara's good influence shining through now & I can see that is something she left with him & that he'll not lose, ever.

(um, in short, One is love. & I totally love him even more now, if such a thing is possible.)

- & I love how Polly sides with One completely. She's full of strength & compassion & I love her so. & Ben! I'm a bit disappointed in him for wanting to run off & let the village die so easily, but I'm glad he came around somewhat.

Polly > Ben

- Ooo! Ben & Polly's lark in the graveyard helped One figure out the churchwarden's riddle! & they're getting all the pieces together at quite a pace!

- One's v. brave to make Ben & Polly leave him like that to keep them safe. & Ben's awesome for saying he'll be back for him. ::nods::

- One's so honourable, even when dealing with the likes of Captain Pike. ♥ WHY DO PEOPLE DISRESPECT HIM SO MUCH?!

- ::sighs:: I sort of find Ben rescuing Polly from pirates to be terribly romantic. ::blushes::

- & off they (& I!) go onto their next destination, which, sadly, will be One's final story. But it must be faced with a clear mind, & a brave heart.

The Tenth Planet

- Oooo, the opening titles are quite ominous for this serial - I love them! Immediately makes me think of Cybermen. (& yay, a Kit Pedler story!)

- This serial, if I remember right, is almost entirely intact, save for the final story, which is a recon. So it should be a bit easier for me to recap for the most part. (I'm thinking recapping a serial that's a recon is an art that must be learnt a bit slowly, if one means to pick it up properly!)

- 'Doctor, you have a fantastic wardrobe!' YES! Proof that the Doctor's always had one hell of a wardrobe, even if he was only travelling with Susan! & I LOVE Polly's choice - supercute & warm! & aww, how sweet is it that she gently fusses over One's warmth? 'Like toast, my dear!' LOVE.

- Random fashion note: Polly's carrying a muff! Stylish indeed!

- Sigh, men gawking at pretty, dolly, jolly Polly already? MEN. Ben's not going to like this. I think!

- Ha, One doesn't tolerate ANYONE speaking him in a rude tone! Respect the Doctor or get cut!

- 1986?! OMG. I was expecting them to land in the twenty-first century myself, but 1986?! That's three years before I was born! Wild, man.

- Hmm, so this tenth planet is between Mars & Venus? Why did I think it was near Pluto? (yes, this was the 1960s, Pluto was still a planet!)

- One's knowledge of what this planet means is sort of giving me the creeps. I don't really want to speculate as to what the planet is myself, but his knowing it is just creepy.

- LOLZ, THEY'RE GOING TO TRY & BREAK INTO THE TARDIS? LOLZ, I SAY AGAIN.

- UM. I think we just had our first - no, we HAVE just had our first sighting of Mondasian Cybermen! WHOA. & yes, they disturb me as well as the Telosian ones do. Right now, it's all in their faces.

- Okay, the Cybermen are in the base now. & they're scary, okay?! & their voices are kind of creeeepy.

- Mondasian Cybermen are an interesting breed & they are NOT like the Telosian breed, which is what most of us have seen in future serials - the Mondasian breed only had one serial, I think, & it was this one. [livejournal.com profile] nentari & I have/are having quite an interesting talk about the differences between Mondasian, Telosian & Cybus Cybermen, the latter being the new series ones. The Mondasian ones seem, to me, just a slight bit more human than the Telosian ones, or even the Cybus ones. They're more willing to answer human queries about who & what they are, as well as how they became what they are now. They also seem more inclined to carry on a conversation, or something like one, with humans, whereas Telosian & Cybus Cybermen are more of the 'convert delete or kill' sort.

Also, their design is vastly different from their counterparts - more bulky & more tubed in the front, & far less of a metallic face. In fact, their faces remind me of clown faces - & I'm somewhat scared of clowns.

& also, the Mondasian Cybermen still have the stealth of the Telosian ones - which is something the Cybus Cybermen of the new series irritatingly lost - honestly, if the Mondasian Cybermen & the Telosian Cybermen went around stomping & clanking like ghosts with rusty chains attached, it would be far too easy for the Doctor to wipe them out before they even showed up!

- So now the Cybermen threw Ben in a projection room & yet, he's learnt from the Doctor already - never give up, no matter how bleak a situation looks. & his remorse at being forced to kill a Cybermen . . . o, Ben. ::hugs::

(& Polly's at his side already!)

- I was actually only planning to go to the second story tonight, but I'm on the third story & I just can't stop watching! Anyway, Cybermen are - O FUCK! One just collapsed! One just collapsed & the Cybermen are bringing in more & along with spaceships. This is not the best time for One to be taken ill!

- Polly says he just seems worn out. I'm pretty worried about the Doctor, my own self! But I rather liked how Ben insists that he & Polly get back to the others & that there's nothing they can do for him. Be that as it may, I'm worried about One.

- HA. Polly may appear to be making coffee, but that girl's working her ulterior motives in-between adding sugar & cream! To all the Polly haters - SHE'S NOT JUST THE MOTHERFUCKING TEA GIRL, BITCHES! She's got someone on her, Ben & One's side now. Not bad for someone everyone always calls a 'screamer' & 'a tea lady'. IN YOUR FACES, POLLY'S AWESOME.

- Oooo, v. James Bond there Ben, crawling through ventilation shafts like that! & he's got his pocket knife! He's ready, folks.

- Another random note - I LOVE Polly's dress! (or is it a jumper?) Overall, she really looks just fabulous! & her EYES! I WANT HER EYES, OR AT LEAST, HER EYE MAKEUP.

- JERK KNOCKED BEN OUT! ::growls:: But at least Polly's there to help him out a bit. (he looks so sweet whilst unconscious . . . but they both look quite sweet together.)

- Okay, we're in recon mode now - & it is a GREAT recon, seriously. An absolutely cracking recon.

- 'I guess this old body of mine is wearing a bit thin.'

O, One. I . . . I know what will come next . . . but I don't want you to leave!

- Wow, owing a Cyberman your life . . . not a concept I'm so readily familiar with. & saving a Cyberman as well . . . wow.

- Ben is going to cut a Cyberman if they touch Polly. Seriously.

- FUCKERS ARE NOT CONVERTING POLLY, FUCK THAT NOISE. & if they do, Ben & One will rip their heads right off.

- I'm sorry, but the Mondasian Cybermen have faces that are freaking me the fuck out - they look too fucking much like clowns! ::hides::

- WHOA, WHOA, GO BEN! He's caught on that Cybermen can't handle radiation! That would make him the first companion of the Doctor's to realise that Cybermen cannot face radiation without dying.

(incidentally, Polly's the one who kicked some Cybermen arse with nail varnish remover! Those two were damn good against Cybermen!)

- ::is scared for Polly & One::

- Ben is showing his snappy, hit-the-ground-fighting traits again, just like he showed us in The War Machines. ROCK ON, BEN! I just hope he'll be okay after being so close to radioactive materials!

- I love Ben. Sometimes, so far, he's bugged me a bit, but he's awesome & I do love him. He really is a great companion.

- WHOA. Mondas disintegrates, & so do the Cybermen? AWESOME!

- & now Ben's saving Polly & One! But One . . . he doesn't look good at all. He sounds awful & he looks so weak . . .

- Okay, this is . . . not good. He can barely even get Ben & Polly inside the TARDIS! & the TARDIS doesn't even sound like herself!

- & . . . . he's gone. Just like that. He collapsed & One . . . isn't One anymore.

(okay, going to have a bit of sap for a moment here.)

In the mix I made about the nine times the Doctor has regenerated, I used the song Airbag by Radiohead, because, based on the research I'd done on One's regeneration, I felt like it fit his moment of regeneration, particularly the line 'In an interstellar burst/I'm back to save the universe'.

& that's just what happens.

Still . . . I miss One already. ::sad sigh::

Also, [livejournal.com profile] nentari & I once had a bit of discussion on what it was that caused One to regenerate - was it because of the Cybermen, or was it simply because his original body was finally forced to regenerate, or he would have died? After watching, I'm pretty much solid on the idea of his regeneration coming about because his first body was just too old & had been through too much & if he hadn't regenerated when he did, he would have died altogether. Also, there is enough evidence throughout the story that his body was finally showing signs of age & that a regeneration would have to come soon.

(I should also say that I am one hundred percent sure that the first body we see the Doctor in is the body he was born with.)

The Power of the Daleks

- Picking up where we left off, One has just regenerated into his second body on the floor of the TARDIS, in front of Ben & Polly, who are lost as fuck as to what's just happened.

- & Patrick Troughton's off to a GREAT start as our second Doctor! I love his post-regeneration scene - v. well played & v. in-keeping with what I've seen the Doctor like after he's regenerated.

- Teehee! Now he's got to examine his new face. & his muscles are a bit tight, alas.

- Now everything's beginning to fall into place for all three of them - Two knows he's the Doctor now, or at least he seems to.

- THE RECORDER!! I LOVE IT! Aww! & he's got his five hundred year diary & knows who Ben is - okay, getting there now, I'd say.

- I love how Polly's the one with full faith in the Doctor; that it is the Doctor & he'll be okay, while Ben's insanely sceptical about everything that's going on around him. It's a good contrast both to each other & to Two's own confusion.

- HE'S PLAYING IT AGAIN. ♥ & Ben appears to be none too happy about it. He's even shouted at Polly. Yeah, he's not in the best of moods. & AWWW, STILL PLAYING IT. I think he's rather good, myself.

- O yeah, this is so the Doctor - plotty, cunning, sneaky & with just the right card up his sleeve. ::grins:: Loving him already, on his first serial! I do hope Ben cuts the 'OMG THIS AIN'T THE DOCTOR!' bollocks already. Preferably very soon.

- I have a really bad feeling about that capsule & the first serial's half over. Meep.

- Two is awesomely sneaky, I have GOT to say that.

- FUCK. Daleks. Well . . . they don't look as deadly as the ones I've seen, but WHAT is that thing on the floor?! & where's the fourth one?

- GAH THAT THING IS DISGUSTING! It looks like a bloody mutated jellyfish!

(I think I've also forgotten that this IS the first time Ben & Polly have ever seen a Dalek. They've met Cybermen, but not Daleks.)

- Christ on a cracker . . . I'm sorry, Cybermen may scare me more, but Daleks can do it pretty well too. & Two saying only one Dalek would be needed to wipe out the whole colony on Vulcan . . . I find it chilling.

- HA! Two's sauciness is sexy! ::blows kiss::

- He's only just regenerated, but he's got the spark & fire of his later time - ♥ Two ♥

- DUDE, WTF, ARE YOU AN IDIOT? WHY ARE TRYING TO REVIVE THE DALEKS? Why don't people just listen to the Doctor when he talks?! Melt the pepperpots down!

- Hee, reference to his meeting Marco Polo! & BEN, CUT THE BITCHING, PLEASE. Polly, however, gets a cupcake for believing him to be the real Doctor.

- 'I never talk nonsense. Well, hardly ever.'

- Wow. Two's actually giving me a bit of a spook in this serial - he's never done that before. It's his mysteriousness, his sense of confusion, the hint of darkness I keep feeling from him. I don't think I've ever known one to be like this - he's always been the Doctor I'd want to be best friends with, to go dancing with, & learn to play recorder from. I know there's more to him than his outward silliness & cheerful disposition, like how there's more to Eight than his giddiness & Romantic tendencies, but unlike with Eight, I've never seen Two's darker side - or maybe I have & don't remember it - prior to now. I've seen his cleverness, his wit, his capabilities, but not so much this . . . darkness I just feel from him in this story.

- EARTH PEOPLE ARE TWITS. WHY, WHY, WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO REVIVE A DAMN DALEK?! Okay, FINE, get your silly selves exterminated, so you don't pollute the rest of the human gene pool by procreating. ::sighs loudly::

- More recorder playing! & I love the discussion between Polly & Ben over the deputy governor's guilt or innocence. I think it's an interesting showcase of their personalities, as well as their emotions & of course, their feelings on the situation at hand.

- O, FUCK ME, WHY ARE EARTH PEOPLE SUCH FOOLS. & Two agrees with me, I see. ::glares:: (& maybe NOW Ben will quit the bitching about him being the Doctor or not.)

- The very last half of the second serial, when the Dalek begins to speak, & Two's desperately trying to explain a Dalek's true nature & both are sort of vocally (or should I say aurally?) overlaid is both haunting & chilling.

. . . Okay, it's just scary. To me, anyway. People, just melt down the Daleks before you get yourselves wiped out!

- Any time a Dalek claims to be 'helping' a human? It's time to bash the thing in the eyestalk with a baseball bat.

- GET YOUR GRUBBY HANDS OFF MY DUCHESS BASTARDS!

- More recorder playing! & when Ben finds out they've kidnapped Polly, he is going to blow a frakkin' fuse.

- O, sure, let's just hand over lots of shiny stuff to the Daleks all willy-nilly, why don't we? ::sighs even louder::

- O.fuck.me. The Daleks have all been reactivated. That colony is SCREWED.

- O no. Two's been discovered. Now HE'S screwed!

- & now people are leaving pseudo-ransom notes about Polly? ::glowers:: NOT ON.

- HALLELUJAH, SOMEONE'S SLOWLY BEGINNING TO AGREE WITH TWO.

- Dalek reproduction is . . . . well . . . . let's pretend I don't know about it, okay?

- 'You think you're very tough, don't you, pushing a girl around. I'd like to see you come up against a real man.'

'Like who?'

'Like Ben for instance!'

♥♥♥♥

Polly-girl, you are the awesome.

- . . . . Did Two just use his recorder to break out of a prison cell?

THAT RECORDER IS A WEAPON IN HIS HANDS! & he is made of some serious win, people.

- For some reason, I find Two telling Polly that Ben can take care of himself to be quite sweet.

- & yes, the ending of the fifth part gave me some massive chills. Dalek voices are v. scary when they layer over each other like that.

- My shippy little heart went all fluttery when Ben & Polly finally got to see each other again. Awww.

- Ben comforting Polly! O . . . ♥♥

- 'Why can't you just take all the plugs out and cut the power?'

'Because I prefer to do it my way!'

Hee! I love Two's stubbornness; it's one of my favourite things about him.

- Something I've not noted yet - the concept of one scientist 'giving' life to the Daleks - it feels very Frankenstein-esque, in my opinion. Not only were the Daleks brought to life by a human, they killed humans as well. Of course, all under very different circumstances. But it did put me in mind of the story.

- Ah, a sneaky escape, as the Doctor prefers. ::smiles:: & more recorder playing!!

- & away they go, off to new places & new faces! Bravo, bravo! ::claps::

Whew! This was the official beginning of the great & mighty Troughton rewatch-athon & alas, the ending point of the Hartnell era for now. (but I've a load of Hartnell-era serials to watch!) The next three serials will be The Highlanders (!!!), The Underwater Menace & The Moonbase, the last two I may supplement with my Lost in Time DVD collection.

Previous recaps
The Dalek Invasion of Earth
The Time Meddler
The War Machines

Date: 2009-07-14 11:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nentari.livejournal.com
& bonus!Tom Baker? ::claps her hands::
Oh yes - an absolutely hilarious role!
And Miranda Richardson's Queenie is completely different from any other Elizabeth I you've ever seen - she turned the role upside-down and turned Queenie into a squeaky-voiced spoiled brat.
[livejournal.com profile] redscharlach made icons of S2 Blackadder in the same style as her Who icons, and which you can find here; icons #30 and #31 are the ones of Tom Baker's character.

Hence the straightening & no bright lipsticks for me.
I can see how that can be complicated.

I think the Pena Palace would be my favourite though. But they all have quite a beauty to them! ::twirl::
Yes, the Pena Palace is the prettiest of all three. But the National Palace is close to the Toy Museum and the pastry shops, so it's my #1 choice whenever I go to Sintra.

Date: 2009-07-14 12:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riverdresses.livejournal.com
Miranda Richardson's Queenie is completely different from any other Elizabeth I you've ever seen - she turned the role upside-down and turned Queenie into a squeaky-voiced spoiled brat.

O, that I MUST see! :D ABSOLUTELY.

I can see how that can be complicated.

Yes . . . I look quite tacky in bright red lipstick, I think. Gloss I can get away with a bit, but I have to blot a lot of it off to keep the tackiness away. Which is a bit sad, because red lipstick is quite pretty! But alas, I have to settle for red nails instead.

Yes, the Pena Palace is the prettiest of all three. But the National Palace is close to the Toy Museum and the pastry shops, so it's my #1 choice whenever I go to Sintra.

O! Sweets & toys! I could see why you'd like to go there the most. :D

Date: 2009-07-14 01:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nentari.livejournal.com
Yes . . . I look quite tacky in bright red lipstick, I think.
As for me, whenever I put on some red lipstick I look like something out of the Addams Family.

O! Sweets & toys! I could see why you'd like to go there the most. :D
Yes, indeed. Sintra is the place where they make queijadas - kinda like quesadillas (I think that's how you spell it), but not really the same. The recipe has been kept a secret for centuries, so any attempt to reproduce it has resulted in disaster.

Date: 2009-07-14 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riverdresses.livejournal.com
As for me, whenever I put on some red lipstick I look like something out of the Addams Family.

O, but that can look quite nice at some times! (or maybe that's just me & my oddness . . .)

& I've never heard of queijadas - are they sort of like a sweets version of quesadillas, or do they have cheese in them as well? (I've only ever had quesadillas with cheese, which is a bit too dull for me - I like them with salsa & avacado mixed in. Or at least to dip them in!)

Date: 2009-07-14 11:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nentari.livejournal.com
O, but that can look quite nice at some times! (or maybe that's just me & my oddness . . .)
It's too heavy for an everyday look when you work as an office clerk, though...

& I've never heard of queijadas - are they sort of like a sweets version of quesadillas, or do they have cheese in them as well?
They are sweet, yes, and cheese is the main ingredient. As I've said, the recipe has been kept a secret by the Sintra confectioners, but my expert taste buds can vouch that it also includes cinnamon and almonds.

Anyway, have some quotes from the War Games production subtitles:

In the late 1960s, Doctor Who rehearsals usually took place in a rented church hall, St Helen's in West London. The process began with a script read-through.
(...)
The cast wore their own clothes to rehearsal - if occasionally minus some garment or other through some actorish prank. Doctor Who had been coming to St Helen's since 1966, so the vicar was probably getting used to theatricals and their curious ways: no terrors for him in a trouserless Troughton, or Wendy Padbury in her knickers!

And here's another one:
It was usually Wendy Padbury who got the worst of it on location: she often had to be wearing a short skirt. Despite her extra coverage this time round, her dresser still came equipped with a much needed fur coat and brandy bottle. Patrick Troughton and Frazer Hines had their own way of helping her out, known as a "Wendy sandwich". It was based on the principle of three people sharing body heat, with the smallest one in the middle. (Use your imagination.)

And finally one we've already discussed:
As it was first envisaged, the colour series would feature Zoe stranded on Earth alongside the new Doctor. The production team expected to lose Frazer Hines that year, but rather hoped that Wendy Padbury would stay on. Frazer's agent was pushing to get him out of television and into a big-screen career (which never materialised). His original plan was to leave Doctor Who at the end of 1968, 12 episodes into the series. (That would mean leaving Jamie behind on a planet of newly tamed Amazons, in a serial which was later abandoned.) When Frazer heard that Patrick Troughton was leaving too, he decided to give it six more months. That made up Wendy's mind: all three regulars would go together at the end of the 1968-9 series. The new Doctor would now be assisted by a scientist named Liz, who had not yet been cast as "The War Games" drew to an end.

Date: 2009-07-15 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riverdresses.livejournal.com
It's too heavy for an everyday look when you work as an office clerk, though...

O, yes, it would be, wouldn't it? :( They do say there's a good shade of red for everyone, but I hate the ones I should probably be wearing - I just like red, flirty, Hollywood starlet lipsticks!

They are sweet, yes, and cheese is the main ingredient. As I've said, the recipe has been kept a secret by the Sintra confectioners, but my expert taste buds can vouch that it also includes cinnamon and almonds.

Oooo, that sounds quite yummy! I don't think I'd mind the lack of dipping items then. & cheese & cinnamon sounds like quite a combination - I don't think I've ever tasted it. (but then again, I rarely have cinnamon, save for the rare occasions I have warm apple cider! I had an amazing one a few days before Christmas last year, whilst waiting for a boat - it had caramel & cinnamon & was just perfect for that day, which was very wet & rainy.)

& EEE, production notes! ::snugs you::

The cast wore their own clothes to rehearsal - if occasionally minus some garment or other through some actorish prank. Doctor Who had been coming to St Helen's since 1966, so the vicar was probably getting used to theatricals and their curious ways: no terrors for him in a trouserless Troughton, or Wendy Padbury in her knickers!

If I weren't in a library right now, my giggling & flailing would probably be at level ten now! O my goodness! I ADORE IT. ♥

Patrick Troughton and Frazer Hines had their own way of helping her out, known as a "Wendy sandwich". It was based on the principle of three people sharing body heat, with the smallest one in the middle. (Use your imagination.)

. . . . I'll just sit here & be quietly jealous of Wendy right now, thankyou.

(but I DO know how horrible it is to be in short skirts, even with tights, when it's very cold out. & waiting for the bus . . . o dear! ::wibble::)

(That would mean leaving Jamie behind on a planet of newly tamed Amazons, in a serial which was later abandoned.)

For some reason, that makes me giggle - or smile, rather, since such vocal frivolity is frowned on in libraries - as Amazons were known to kill men who came into their settlements, & only visited them to have children. (o, the hell with it, I'm quietly laughing now!) But that would have been an . . . interesting way for Jamie to go out. & though, as heartbreaking as The War Games ends, I sort of like how everything from Two's era was wrapped up & put in its own special little box.

(& of course, Jon Pertwee & Caroline John. Pretty AND in colour! ♥♥)

O! & since you've shared with me, I shall share something with you - your idea for that new mix we were discussing . . . well, I had a song in mind for it & thought maybe you'd like a listen: Astrud Gilberto & Stan Getz - The Girl From Ipanema. I found it again after having forgot I'd even had it, & I thought it sort of fit? ::scurries away back into her cupboard::

Date: 2009-07-15 06:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nentari.livejournal.com
Oooo, that sounds quite yummy! I don't think I'd mind the lack of dipping items then.
There's another pastry with a secret recipe (Jamie Oliver tried to reproduce it and put it in one of his recipe books, but it's still not the same thing), this time made of custard and hailing from Lisbon, which you can sprinkle with sugar and cinnamon if needed. And it's amazing if eaten while it's still hot.

If I weren't in a library right now, my giggling & flailing would probably be at level ten now! O my goodness! I ADORE IT. ♥
You can guess who was the person responsible for those pranks, don't you? *grins*

but I DO know how horrible it is to be in short skirts, even with tights, when it's very cold out. & waiting for the bus . . . o dear! ::wibble::
Yes, it's a terrible feeling - it's on occasions like these that one desperately needed a Pat and Frazer around.

For some reason, that makes me giggle - or smile, rather, since such vocal frivolity is frowned on in libraries - as Amazons were known to kill men who came into their settlements, & only visited them to have children.
But remember that these were "tamed" amazons - which means Jamie would have stayed behind as their king. *big grin* I think this is the kind of ending that would have been more appropriate for Fitz, though. :P

Astrud Gilberto & Stan Getz - The Girl From Ipanema
Yes, I'm very familiar with the song - all the versions made, I think. It would work well, I think. :)

Date: 2009-07-15 07:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riverdresses.livejournal.com
There's another pastry with a secret recipe (Jamie Oliver tried to reproduce it and put it in one of his recipe books, but it's still not the same thing), this time made of custard and hailing from Lisbon, which you can sprinkle with sugar and cinnamon if needed. And it's amazing if eaten while it's still hot.

O MY! That sounds utterly delicious! I rather like custard, but it's another thing I rarely have. But that sounds quite good! & it makes me think a little of flan - I LOVE flan! I should make some sometime . . . but I think it's only really good in restaurants, not so much in the instant packaged variety.

You can guess who was the person responsible for those pranks, don't you? *grins*

O, I think I can. ::gigglesnorts::

Yes, it's a terrible feeling - it's on occasions like these that one desperately needed a Pat and Frazer around.

It most certainly is - even with go-go boots, I find. O, why couldn't we be so lucky to have a set for ourselves?

But remember that these were "tamed" amazons - which means Jamie would have stayed behind as their king. *big grin* I think this is the kind of ending that would have been more appropriate for Fitz, though. :P

King Jamie . . . that could have been nice . . . . & all he'd need would be his kilt & knife & Leela to be his queen, 'cause that girl's totally part Amazon . . . . what a lovely image. ::stares off into space::
Uh, I mean, yes, it would have been a very good ending for Fitz, yes indeed. ::cough::

Yes, I'm very familiar with the song - all the versions made, I think. It would work well, I think. :)

O, yay! Though if you already had it, I'll feel a bit silly about having uploaded it - but um, I'm glad you think it fits! :D

Date: 2009-07-15 09:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nentari.livejournal.com
O MY! That sounds utterly delicious!
They're normally called "cream pasties" or "Belem pasties" (Belem being the part of Lisbon where the genuine article is made), and I think Jamie Oliver's variation is probably "Portuguese pasties". Absolutely delicious, hands down. :)

And I can make a kickass flan using the instant packets and adding sliced bananas.

O, why couldn't we be so lucky to have a set for ourselves?
It's so unfair. Every girl should have such a set.

& Leela to be his queen, 'cause that girl's totally part Amazon
*grins* But as their king, he'd have all the Amazons at his disposal, and I don't think Leela would like that. :P

Uh, I mean, yes, it would have been a very good ending for Fitz, yes indeed. ::cough::
Fitz: An army of half-naked girls, all willing to bed me? FAB! Where do I sign?

Though if you already had it, I'll feel a bit silly about having uploaded it - but um, I'm glad you think it fits! :D
I don't have it, so thank you! It's well-known and extremely popular in all Portuguese-speaking countries, though, so it's unsurprising I'd know about it. :)

Date: 2009-07-15 10:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riverdresses.livejournal.com
They're normally called "cream pasties" or "Belem pasties" (Belem being the part of Lisbon where the genuine article is made), and I think Jamie Oliver's variation is probably "Portuguese pasties". Absolutely delicious, hands down. :)

O! Those sound so yummy; I do wish I could try one! I adore exotic sweets. ^_^

& I haven't had flan in AAAAAAGES, honestly. & now I really want some! I think I'll ask my pappy to procure a box of the instant sort soon.

*grins* But as their king, he'd have all the Amazons at his disposal, and I don't think Leela would like that. :P

O, I highly doubt she would - her knives would possibly have some serious overtime ahead of them. ;)

Fitz: An army of half-naked girls, all willing to bed me? FAB! Where do I sign?

LOLZ! ::dies:: Yes, that would be a very happy dream for Fitz, I'd say. :P

I don't have it, so thank you!

O, you're most welcome! ::hugs::

Date: 2009-07-15 10:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nentari.livejournal.com
& I haven't had flan in AAAAAAGES, honestly. & now I really want some! I think I'll ask my pappy to procure a box of the instant sort soon.
I'll have to see if I can make a flan for myself one of these days as well - this talk is making me hungry. :) However, today I'll go to the healthy fast-food chain I usually visit on weekdays, and which has a strawberry mousse that's to die for. I bought their recipe book and it has the recipe for the mousse, so that's another one I should also try making myself.

LOLZ! ::dies:: Yes, that would be a very happy dream for Fitz, I'd say. :P
And I can also imagine the reaction of all the people who travelled with him after hearing his words: Eight and Sam would smile and shake their heads, Anji would facepalm and groan, and Compassion would roll her eyes and say "Whatever."

Date: 2009-07-15 11:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riverdresses.livejournal.com
I'll have to see if I can make a flan for myself one of these days as well - this talk is making me hungry. :)

O, me too! I suddenly want another pint of caramel ice cream, despite the fact that I think I had TWO pints, or half of one, last week during my Tomb of the Cybermen recaps.
& OMG STRAWBERRY MOUSSE? ::squeals:: I LOVE strawberries & I love mousse, especially the chocolate sort! But a strawberry one sounds DELIGHTFUL.

And I can also imagine the reaction of all the people who travelled with him after hearing his words: Eight and Sam would smile and shake their heads, Anji would facepalm and groan, and Compassion would roll her eyes and say "Whatever."

::giggles:: I find Compassion's reaction to be my favourite, surprisingly. :P

Date: 2009-07-15 11:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nentari.livejournal.com
O, me too! I suddenly want another pint of caramel ice cream, despite the fact that I think I had TWO pints, or half of one, last week during my Tomb of the Cybermen recaps.
A very appropriate thing to eat while watching it, considering that the tomb was frozen. :P

The strawberry mousse is not exactly mousse-y in texture, as it's not made with whipped egg whites, but the flavour is just perfect. I'll see if I can translate the recipe for you. :)

::giggles:: I find Compassion's reaction to be my favourite, surprisingly. :P
She'd say "whatever" a lot, especially when Eight tried to make her a bit more... well, compassionate and interested in doing good for goodness' sake. Her catchphrase, however, was "obvious", which she'd throw with a mocking, condescending tone whenever someone made a realization.

Date: 2009-07-15 11:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riverdresses.livejournal.com
A very appropriate thing to eat while watching it, considering that the tomb was frozen. :P

I HADN'T EVEN REALISED THAT! I was more revelling in the decadence of pure caramel ice cream as I hadn't had it in a couple of years, if not more. (but revelling in decadence & luxury would perhaps be a bit more appropriate for recapping The Enemy of the World, yes? ::dreamy little face::)

The strawberry mousse is not exactly mousse-y in texture, as it's not made with whipped egg whites, but the flavour is just perfect. I'll see if I can translate the recipe for you. :)

I'm sure it's still splendid. & o, you're so kind to me! Thankyou! ♥♥ (I do love baking sweet things, actually. It's sort of all I can do in a kitchen. :P)

She'd say "whatever" a lot, especially when Eight tried to make her a bit more... well, compassionate and interested in doing good for goodness' sake.

HEE! I'd high-five her, but she might just blow me off - 'whatever' is one of the main things that comes out of my mouth, but mostly with the barbarian, as a conversation with her seems to require many 'whatevers'. :P Sounds like I occasionally channel Compassion on occasion. Um . . . :D

Date: 2009-07-15 12:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nentari.livejournal.com
but revelling in decadence & luxury would perhaps be a bit more appropriate for recapping The Enemy of the World, yes?
Oh, possibly, possibly. Finding yourself a food taster would also be a good thing to do. :P

I'm sure it's still splendid.
Oh, it is. I'm going to leave now, and head straight to the restaurant in search of the mousse. :)

I'd high-five her, but she might just blow me off
Yes, she'll definitely do that.

Sounds like I occasionally channel Compassion on occasion. Um . . . :D
I can't say that's really a bad thing, even though she can be a right bitch at times. I ♥ her.

Date: 2009-07-15 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riverdresses.livejournal.com
Oh, possibly, possibly. Finding yourself a food taster would also be a good thing to do. :P

O yes . . . & we mustn't forget the personalised wines from Alaska! ;)

Oh, it is. I'm going to leave now, and head straight to the restaurant in search of the mousse. :)

YAY! & whilst you enjoy your mousse, I shall be (hopefully!) sound asleep on tangerine coloured satin sheets under my rose light strings. (O, why can't it ALWAYS be eleven PM?)

Yes, she'll definitely do that.

& I would be hurt & pout at Eight for that, so best to avoid high-fiving Compassion altogether. :P

I can't say that's really a bad thing, even though she can be a right bitch at times. I ♥ her.

Hee - I do believe I can be quite a bitch myself at times, but it takes a LOT to actually bring that out of me. I'd rather be a cheerful little bunny with everyone!

Date: 2009-07-15 01:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nentari.livejournal.com
& we mustn't forget the personalised wines from Alaska! ;)
And the rubber-clad bodyguards. *mind goes to happy place*

YAY! & whilst you enjoy your mousse, I shall be (hopefully!) sound asleep on tangerine coloured satin sheets under my rose light strings.
Ooh, lovely!

Besides the mousse (which this time had extra strawberries thrown into the mix) I had cannelloni stuffed with pureed spinach and cheese - yum! All the food at Go Natural comes from organic agriculture and you can see from the taste that it's home-made - plus it costs as much as a McDonald's menu and the staff (who already know me) are incredibly nice and helpful. Now this is how every fast food store should be like. :)

& I would be hurt & pout at Eight for that, so best to avoid high-fiving Compassion altogether. :P
Well, he seems impervious to Compassion's displeasure at his attempts to make her good, so I doubt he'd mind.

Date: 2009-07-16 09:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riverdresses.livejournal.com
And the rubber-clad bodyguards. *mind goes to happy place*

YES. Now I shan't think of Turlough in such an outfit, really, I shan't. It would be . . . it would not be right.

Besides the mousse (which this time had extra strawberries thrown into the mix) I had cannelloni stuffed with pureed spinach and cheese - yum! All the food at Go Natural comes from organic agriculture and you can see from the taste that it's home-made - plus it costs as much as a McDonald's menu and the staff (who already know me) are incredibly nice and helpful. Now this is how every fast food store should be like. :)

::drools:: I'M STARVING NOW, THANKYOU. :P & YES, SERIOUSLY! Then I would probably spend nice days eating out & scribbling in notebooks, which would be lovely. ^_^

Well, he seems impervious to Compassion's displeasure at his attempts to make her good, so I doubt he'd mind.

. . . . then can I run past Fitz's room in exaggerated tears? So he could play the knight in shining armour & make a girlie feel better? :D

Date: 2009-07-16 09:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nentari.livejournal.com
Now I shan't think of Turlough in such an outfit, really, I shan't. It would be . . . it would not be right.
Oh, but it would be soooooo right. *big grin* You do know about what Turlough wears in Planet of Fire, don't you? That boy was made to be perved after.

Then I would probably spend nice days eating out & scribbling in notebooks, which would be lovely. ^_^
Yes, that sounds like a lovely way to spend time.
Because of yesterday's events, I forgot to translate the recipe for the mousse - but I shall do it, don't worry!

. . . . then can I run past Fitz's room in exaggerated tears? So he could play the knight in shining armour & make a girlie feel better? :D
Oh, he'd love that!

Date: 2009-07-16 10:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riverdresses.livejournal.com
Oh, but it would be soooooo right. *big grin* You do know about what Turlough wears in Planet of Fire, don't you? That boy was made to be perved after.

TELL MEEEEE! You can't leave a girl hanging like that! & Turlough & possibly Jamie standing next to him in rubber . . . YES. But I AM rather fond of his uniform - he wears it well! Um, very well. ::hides face::

Yes, that sounds like a lovely way to spend time.

I think it would be! I'd love to go to more teashops here in the city & sit, drink lots of tea & just write away until my tea's all gone, but I never seem to save enough money to do so. (I buy far too many books & DVDs!) But there are some absolute gems in the way of teashops here. There's a beautiful one where my cousin had her baby shower & it's right near the biggest park in the city, which has SO many amazing places within it to visit. (it's part of the inspiration for part of my Jamie/Victoria story. :D)

Because of yesterday's events, I forgot to translate the recipe for the mousse - but I shall do it, don't worry!

O, don't worry, love Take your time! I'm a patient miss, promise. ^-^

Oh, he'd love that!

HE SO WOULD. Imagine a girl in tears running past his quite open door - it's practically a flashing neon sign reading 'COME PLAY THE HERO!'

(& in smaller print ''You may even get lucky!' ::giggles::)

Date: 2009-07-16 11:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nentari.livejournal.com
TELL MEEEEE! You can't leave a girl hanging like that!
Better yet, I'll show you:


Behold the power of the short shorts.

I'd love to go to more teashops here in the city & sit, drink lots of tea & just write away until my tea's all gone, but I never seem to save enough money to do so.
Alas, with me it's the lack of both time and money. Ah well - maybe soon... There aren't that many teashops around here, either.

HE SO WOULD. Imagine a girl in tears running past his quite open door - it's practically a flashing neon sign reading 'COME PLAY THE HERO!'
Fitz is so transparent, isn't he? *pets him*

Date: 2009-07-16 12:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riverdresses.livejournal.com
O my giddy aunt! He's out of uniform! THAT'S QUITE NICE. :D

There aren't that many teashops around here, either.

O NO! :O Everyone should have lots of teashops around them, or at least a couple! I know there are about four here, two I absolutely adore (& one of them will let you buy the teacups if you want!) & the other two are more commercial & sort of a weird chain - in that there are just two of them here in the city as far as I know. But in Chinatown, there are a LOT of places that let you buy & taste tea. But then again, tea is a way of life to me. :D

Fitz is so transparent, isn't he? *pets him*

Is he EVER! But that's . . . kind of part of his charm - it would be quite easy to woo him, would it not? Possibly even for a shy bunny like me! :P & who wouldn't love a fellow who might unexpectedly write them a song sometime?

Date: 2009-07-16 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nentari.livejournal.com
THAT'S QUITE NICE. :D
*ogles* Who says Zoe is the only companion who knows how to fill her short shorts?

O NO! :O Everyone should have lots of teashops around them, or at least a couple!
We have dodgy-looking coffee houses in almost every corner, bakeries, but almost no teashops. And we're meant to be the nation who got the British hooked on tea. For shame.

it would be quite easy to woo him, would it not?
Oh, absolutely. Just say "hello", and he'll drool all over you.

& who wouldn't love a fellow who might unexpectedly write them a song sometime?
Provided it's not like Song for Samantha, which deals mostly with environmental rights (so very Sam) but sadly has the trouble of being written by a guy from 1963 trying to talk about issues from 1997.

Date: 2009-07-16 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riverdresses.livejournal.com
*ogles* Who says Zoe is the only companion who knows how to fill her short shorts?

The Doctor ALWAYS knew how to pick a companion. ::grins::

We have dodgy-looking coffee houses in almost every corner, bakeries, but almost no teashops. And we're meant to be the nation who got the British hooked on tea. For shame.

WHAT! Two!look of outrage:: HOW CAN THIS BE?! A certain time meddler must have been fooling around in your country's history of tea, I think . . . & that CANNOT be allowed.

Oh, absolutely. Just say "hello", and he'll drool all over you.

::looks all shy:: 'O, hello there Fitz.'

Provided it's not like Song for Samantha, which deals mostly with environmental rights (so very Sam) but sadly has the trouble of being written by a guy from 1963 trying to talk about issues from 1997.

::giggles madly:: O, FITZ. He still gets a few points for trying, anyhow! ::gives him a cupcake::

Date: 2009-07-16 02:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nentari.livejournal.com
The Doctor ALWAYS knew how to pick a companion. ::grins::
Or, in these two cases, fate allows the right companions to get picked for him.

A certain time meddler must have been fooling around in your country's history of tea, I think . . . & that CANNOT be allowed.
Oh, I know, I know. We build other nations' reputations, but then don't live up to the responsibility.

::looks all shy:: 'O, hello there Fitz.'
Fits: *pulls his failed attempt at a Sean Connery impression* Hello. My name is Fitz, Fitz Kreiner. *lights up cigarette and tries unsuccessfully to look sexy* I am from beyond the stars. On my planet, it is customary to shag by way of civilised greeting."

(Yes, he really did try to pull this.)

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