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Before my recaps?

My iTunes ate itself again. ::sobs:: & I FINALLY HAD SOME SEMBLANCE OF ORDER FOR MY TWO/JAMIE MIX! Now I have to REMAKE all my playlists AGAIN. UGH. I fucking HATE doing that; it's SO tedious.

Okay, so last week's recaps were rather depressing, weren't they? Endings, beginnings, endings again . . . yeah, pretty sad. But this week, I get to do a surprisingly lighter series of recaps, because we're doing two of my favourites & all of this week's serials have a bit of nostalgia attached to them, especially the second.

Plus . . . crack! Crack is always good. ::beams::

Anyway, this week, I'll be recapping The Dominators, The Mind Robber & The Invasion! & from here until The Space Pirates I believe, I'll be able to watch serials now, instead of just listening to them, or listening, then switching over to a surviving serial.

Let's get started, shall we? ::cheery grins:: First up, we have The Dominators, which, when [livejournal.com profile] nentari gave me the first batch of Two serials I didn't have, was the very first one I tore into, which shall be explained later on.

The Dominators

- I always thought that the Dominators in their uniforms, looked like giant turtles. I mean, they do! They look like their heads could pop down into their uniforms at any moment!

- Random fashion note: . . . why are the Dulcians wearing curtains? No, really - they're wearing huge bits of upholstery! Well, the men are, anyway - the girls get to wear fluttery, rather sheer curtains. But they look very Greek in their fashions, I must say.

- CRASH! EVERYBODY'S MAROONED!

- O, hello TARDIS! ::waves:: & Two, Jamie & Zoe!

- LOLZ, JAMIE BLOWING UP A BEACH BALL! & Zoe looking all sceptical at the idea of a holiday! AWW. & Two in his cute beach chair!

- JAMIE! PUT THE GUN DOWN! ::flaps hands at Jamie::

- EEEK, SKELETONS! O, never mind - just dummies - um . . . hopefully.

- O dear. Company seems to have arrived!

- O I see - a bit of help, not anyone out to kill the three of them! (not yet, anyway)

- Random fashion note two: I ♥ Two's floppy hair! It's so cute on him & of course, just in general!

- ::giggles:: From the back, the Dominators really look like turtles! Turtles covered in seaweed, that is.

- I remember when I first saw only pictures of the Dominators, I thought they were the Ice Warriors - they looked so much like they were from somewhere very cold, what with their funny suits & such.

- 'Oh no, you're not thinking what I think you're thinking, are you?'

'That, I think, Jamie depends on what you think I am thinking.'

THEY ARE SO ADORABLY SYNCHRONISED. ::tee-hees to herself::

- Jamie: ::grabbing repeatedly on the back of Two's coat while Two looks inside the spacecraft::

Two: 'Jamie don't do it!'

::gigglesnorts::

& just in the first episode, Jamie & Two hung onto each other quite a bit. (yeah, I notice this. WHAT?)

- O dear . . . Two & Jamie have been caught by the Quarks!

- & I applaud Jamie's toughness & standing up to mean aliens! ::claps::

- Jamie gets stuck to a wall! & IMMEDIATELY SCREAMS FOR TWO TO HELP HIM. (well, okay, maybe not screams, but that's the first thing he says!)

'Doctor, I can't move, help me!'

- Poor Jamie. He's getting . . . well, probed by aliens. That aren't Two.

- . . . Two & Jamie are awfully cute when they're both in a total panic.

- 'Oh, if I could only get away from this wall . . .'

'Shush, Jamie, I am trying to listen.'

'Everybody wants me to shut up. Alright, I will!'

AWWWW.

- I love how totally calm miss Zoe is, even on another planet, sitting in technology centuries ahead of her. She's so adorable!

- ::sighs:: Dulcians . . . they're . . . the way their minds work rather bother me. Talk about thinking inside your box!

- O, Jamie's ready with the smelling salts for Two after that horrid test! & he holds onto him all sweet & gently . . . aww. ::wibble::

'Here . . . come away from that fearful contraption . . . '

O, JAMIE. ::cuddles him::

I think I'd like to make Jamie lots of do you good soup. He could always use it, since he's such a darling.

- Au unintelligent enemy is far less dangerous than an intelligent one, Jamie.'

'Eh?'

'Just act stupid. Do you think you can manage that?'

'Oh, aye, it's easy - (Jamie makes a face)'

HEE! He knows when Two's teasing him.

- ::taps Jamie's knees:: Jamie, it's rather customary to keep one's knees together when in a kilt! But I won't argue if you'd rather not.

- THEY HELD HANDS TO MAKE A TWO-FOOT JUMP! ♥

- JAMIE DON'T POINT THAT THING AT TWO! ::panics::

- AWW, ZOE'S GETTING NEW CLOTHES. ::giggles::

- 'Well they're not very efficient garments, are they?'

'Well, at least you look more like a girl now.'

'Well I'm not sure - they feel impractical!'

HEE! I love the way that she says how her clothes feel impractical. & she looks rather cute in them, I have to say, even if Zoe doesn't much care for them. It's so funny to hear Zoe fussing over her clothes!

- Dulcians have two hearts as well? O my!

- O MY! Zoe, your dress's fastenings have come loose! & you haven't even done anything yet!

- ROCKS ARE FALLING, BUT NOBODY'S DYING YET.

- Now her fastenings are closed again . . . this isn't random fashion notation, this is FACT & it BUGS THE HELL OUT OF ME!

- I adore how much concern Jamie has for Zoe already. It's so sweet.

- & Zoe's brain is already in action! ::beams & hugs her lots::

- Random fashion note three: NONE OF THE OTHER DULCIAN LADIES HAVE FASTENINGS ON THE BACK OF THEIR DRESSES! WHERE'S MY EXPLANATIONS?

- Dulcians are bloody frustrating, honestly! I would have just flipped out by then on the whole lot of them by then.

- Aww, Two's eating jellybabies!

- Zoe, much like Polly, long ago, is inciting a rebellion of her own! Zoe's got a brain & a sparky little nature already!

- Two's taking the capsule apart . . . while it's flying! ::blinks:: Two, you're quite a madman you know!

- Zoe's fastenings are still wide open & it's still bugging me . . .

- I'M DYING AT THE SIGHT OF TWO WITH HIS FEET IN THE AIR, TRYING TO PLAY WITH THE CAPSULE'S WIRING. OMG. Absoloutely hysterical!

- & JAMIE'S PULLING HIM UP BY THE BACK OF HIS TROUSERS! ::dies giggling:: Or it might be his braces, I don't know, but WHATEVER, IS FUNNY.

- Then they do a wild flop & Jamie's pulling Two up by his FACE. I HAVE NO WORDS.

- ::DIES:: & the way they end up landing - their positions! O, goodness me, those two . . .

- O, Two has a telescope in his pocket! & Jamie just takes it without asking, leaving Two to have a rather annoyed look on his face. ::grins:: But it's a good thing Two had that - they found Zoe!

- ::giggle:: Lurking!Two! ::pets his fluffy head::

- Hmm - Zoe's fastenings have seemed to have been closed now . . .

- Hee! Jamie's got a gun! & he blew up a Quark! ::waves tartan pompoms::

- ::breathes:: O, Jamie & Cully are alright! For now . . . & I do hope the ventilator shaft isn't blocked!

- 'There wasn't a laser gun where I come from, yet us McCrimmons dealt with the Redcoats right enough!'

&JAMIE;

I LOVE HIM. ::flails:: Even on alien worlds, Jamie McCrimmon will KICK YOUR ASS! With rocks, if he has to! HOW COULD YOU NOT LOVE HIM?

- LOLZ, ROCKS FALL, QUARKS DIE. FTW!

- HEE. Two teases even Zoe! ::giggles::

- Random fashion note four: there's just a few occasions where you can see . . . well . . . rather nicely up Jamie's kilt if you're looking . . . which I wasn't, I just happened to notice it!

- JAMIE McCRIMMON - KICKING ALIEN ROBOTIC ASS WITH BEDSHEETS! FOR. THE. WIN. ::kick-dances::

- Hmm - one of the Dominators looks like he's wearing a touch of eyeliner - but it's not pretty on a Dominator.

- HMPH! Both Two & Zoe shushing Jamie when he has an idea! & a BRILLIANT idea, as Two says! ::pokes Two for saying it's such a simple idea that even Jamie could think of it::

- TWO'S GOT THE SONIC SCREWDRIVER BACK IN ACTION, BITCHES! ::applauds::

- & Two can create bombs from the contents of a medical kit! Two >>>>>>> LIFE & THE UNIVERSE.

- WHOO-HOO! Jamie & Cully are blowing up Quarks left & right! Jamie & Ace might have got on well, I think. ::grins::

- LOLZ. I love how Zoe holds onto Two when she hears another explosion. & Two's face makes me giggle madly. Heee.

- Zoe's fastenings are open again, I see . . .

- WHOA, ZOE HAS SOME VERY GOOD ARMS! ::covets::

- & Two's found a very handy way to get rid of the seed device & here comes one of my favourite Two/Jamie grabbyhands bits of EVAR.

- O, lots of shaking . . . Zoe flies out of sight . . .Two clings onto Jamie! RIGHT UP AGAINST THE TARDIS! ::claps hands::

- & the volcano's become active! INTO THE TARDIS NOWPLZ.

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Hmm. It has been quite some time since I last saw The Dominators, but I do still enjoy it! I think it's a great first big adventure for Zoe & I loved how utterly awesome Jamie got to be in so much of it - blowing up Quarks, throwing rocks at them, coming up with really good ideas - O, JAMIE. ::heart eyes::

& of course, I DID love how many lovely Two/Jamie moments there were - I swear, they NEVER ONCE had their hands off each other. EVER. Like . . . nope, there very few scenes that didn't include those two holding onto each other in some way & it was quite lovely. (I capped a few!)

Now, why did I rip into The Dominators when I got it? Simple! It was the serial before The Mind Robber & I REALLY wanted to see what led up to my very first serial of Two's era! & as such, now we come to that serial, which I got madly nostalgic recapping, as you'll see. But to be fair, I really do love it.

The Mind Robber

- Okay, the first time I saw this scene, I was all smiles at how close Two & Jamie were. I was like, 'OMG. Everyone WAS right about you two!'

Also, Jamie's cute when he's scared

- Zoe likes volcanic eruptions! & so does Two! ::giggles:: & o dear, Two's having another spot of trouble with the fluid links . . . he should really get those replaced. I think.

- HEY, FOAM!

- 'Well fine, reality's getting too hot anyway!'

First time I heard that? I was all flaily hands & giggles. & I decided that I quite liked Jamie, though I already did from the get-go.

- & Jamie, who probably doesn't quite understand just WHAT that device will do, is going to hold onto Two & study it anyway. AWW. (how far are we into this? Seven minutes or less? & they HAVEN'T STOPPED TOUCHING EACH OTHER ONCE. I remember being all 'OMG. NOT ONLY WAS EVERYONE RIGHT ABOUT YOU TWO, BUT YOU'RE BOTH EXCEEDING MY EXPECTATIONS!')

- & Jamie throws his hand down over Two's, activates the emergency unit (which is one of my favourite grabby moments of this whole serial), then clings to Two for dear life, while Zoe's all calm & collected under stress.

I always loved that bit - her not flipping out, while Jamie does. I always kind of felt that it underscored the relationship between Two & Jamie at that particular moment.

- MOAR FOAM!

- 'Doctor - we're not actually in flight, are we?'

'No, why?'

'Well, then presumably we've landed. So why isn't the scanner showing anything?'

'Well . . . because . . . well, we're nowhere. It's as simple as that.'

That moment between Two & Zoe has always been & so far, remained one of my favourite bits of Two dialogue out of almost all of his serials. I may be a bit biased, yes, because this was my first Two serial, but I just thought it was brilliantly played. It's subtly creepy & disconcerting without being obvious & I just love it.

- HEE! Jamie telling Zoe she looks quite a mess - awww. ::pets them both::

- SPARKLY CATSUIT! ::SQUEALS:: REALLY SPARKLY CATSUIT, O MY. ::beams::

- I love Zoe's mix of logic & curiosity. Feeling & logic. ♥ I think it's best to have one as well as the other. Otherwise, there's no balance to things.

- OMG JAMIE'S LITTLE FACE! I think this was when I totally fell for him, that look on his face when he can see Scotland on the scanner - my heart practically exploded from all the sweetness & the TOTAL CUTENESS of the moment. O, JAMIE LOVELY. How could you not love a sweetheart like that?

& I should also add, that scene is ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS what comes to mind THE SECOND I listen to the Rufus Wainwright version of Across the Universe. I've come to think of that bit as Jamie's Across the Universe face. & it makes me think of the bit that goes:

Sounds of laughter shades of earth are ringing through my open mind inciting and inviting me
Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns and calls me on and on across the universe


Yes - it should be no secret that this is totally Jamie's song for me. ♥

- & Zoe's face when she thinks she can see her home - I melt a bit every time I see her look - so wide-eyed & homesick . . . it's just adorable.

(& also, I want Wendy Padbury's eye makeup from that scene. Which was my second reason for getting another pair of false eyelashes.)

- Random fashion note: this serial features one of my second favourite Jamie outfits - his black jumper & his kilt! Very snappy!

- I love how Jamie, as curious as he is himself, won't let Zoe go outside without Two with them. He keeps his almost-little sister in line, he does.

- BUT SHE DOES IT ANYWAY! Headstrong, our miss Zoe is, isn't she?

- & the way Jamie runs out of the TARDIS after Zoe & Two starts calling after him . . . yes, that was another moment where I said to myself the first time I saw it, 'You two are so in love. SO MASSIVELY IN LOVE.'

- I adore the part with Jamie & Zoe outside the TARDIS - it's quite sweet, I think. Creepy, of course, considering how they're . . . well, nowhere, & those robots (which I actually thought were Cybermen the first time I watched this!), but their interactions are very sweet. & yes, even the slap! ::giggles::

- Also, may I say that bagpipes make me cry a little? I just have sad memories associated with them from the very first time I heard them. But they're still quite nice!

- Eeek, the scary, tempting versions of Jamie & Zoe all in white are creeeeepy! But I LOVE Zoe's white sparkly catsuit!

- 'I don't know. But we've got to be careful. We've got to be very, very careful.'

That line has ALWAYS stuck with me for some reason. Why, I don't know. I think it's all in the way its said. But it's been stuck fast in my head ever since!

- Also, I like how Zoe owns up to her actions & admits that it was her fault that they were all put in danger. & how Two says it really isn't her fault.

- O, Jamie's having a dream. I DO wonder what it's about . . . ::giggle::

Though really, Two, don't tell someone to shut up after they have a horrid nightmare! ::poke::

- Hmm. I feel like now is a good time to mention that while this was my first serial of the Troughton era, I still couldn't help finding Patrick Troughton quite attractive in it. I'm not sure what did it at such an early point, but I was just watching & I remember thinking to myself, 'Hmm . . . Patrick Troughton's really kind of handsome!' But this was before I realised that I sort of had a fancy for Two as well . . . but that came a lot later, actually. I don't remember when, but it was a while after this serial. For me at this point, Two was always the Doctor I'd want to go swing-dancing with in 1930s New York & make teach me how to play the recorder. I don't remember when I started finding him sexy as well! ::laughs::

- THE TARDIS EXPLODED. WHAT?! But Zoe & Jamie are still hanging onto the console, luckily . . . & in Zoe's case, much to the delight of male (& the occasional female!) viewers everywhere! ZOE'S SPARKLY BUM FTW! Ah, I do love that moment.

- & part two picks up where we left off, with the TARDIS exploding into a - well, you could count the bits, but why do that - million pieces, with Zoe & Jamie clinging onto the console & Zoe's adorable backside glittering away at us o-so-temptingly . . . um, er, I mean . . . ::shakes head::

- Ooo, woods!

- & Jamie's just seen a Redcoat! But he's not one to go down without a fight!

- But . . . he got turned into a cardboard cutout . . . yes, WHAT? But he's a sexy cardboard cutout, you have to admit!

- O, hello Two, you're awake! ::snuggles:: & o, Jamie & Zoe are calling out to him, so they're alright. Jamie's voice seems to have dropped about three octaves at this point . . .

- Hmm. Is it sacrilige to say that I LOVE any scene where we just have Patrick Troughton acting in a super-fab way all by himself? He's really quite amazing to watch on his own, as well with others.

- OMFG TWO MEETS GULLIVER!! ::FLAILS LIKE A CRAZY GIRL::

Okay, okay, footnote! When I was a little girl, Gulliver's Travels was one of my favourite stories to read. I even had it on cassette & can still remember listening to that. So the first time I saw this serial, I flipped out when Two met Gulliver - it was like a childhood & fandom collision! & it's one of the reasons I fucking adore this serial. IT HAS GULLIVER!

& yes, I DO know what he's saying when he first sees Two - what does that make me? & in addition, I know where everything he says comes from in all of his stories. I told you it was my favourite book!

- Two's so cute in this scene, I must say. ::tickles him::

- 'Would you mind taking that popgun away, it does unsettle me so!'

O, TWO. ::kisses:: Another favourite bit of Two dialogue of mine!

- O, here are the children! ::giggles::

- 'Adam and Eve and Pinch-Me went down to the river to bathe. (all together now) Adam and Eve got drowned, who do you think was saved?'

'Well, Pinch-Me, obviously!'

(they all pinch him)

'No, stop it, don't do that!'

::DIES:: I LOVE that bit. & I fully intend to do that to the barbarian one day.

- Another reason I have to love this story - it's STUFFED with words & literature, as well as cracktastic fun. O, SIIIIIGH! ::happy bounce::

- & he solves the puzzle, only to lose Jamie's face! ::gigglesnorts::

- TWO, YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG! ::tries to look sad but fails::

- THAT AIN'T JAMIE! But it sure is cute, you've got to admit that!

(& a note . . . Two doesn't seem quite as . . . hands-on with his Not!Jamie!Jamie as he is with his proper Jamie. Or that could just be me.)

- 'What's the good of thinking? What we need is a battering ram! One of these trees!'

'When is a door not a door . . . '

'Och, this is no time for riddles!'

MASSIVE LOVE FOR THAT SCENE. It's so cute!

- ZOE IN A JAR?! ::giggle::

- Ooo, more sparkly bum! & even miss Zoe's confused by this Not!Jamie!Jamie.

- Okay, Not!Jamie!Jamie is about to climb a tree & see if there's a way out of the wood. I remember showing this bit to the barbarian at one point, & when it got to the actual tree climbing, she asked, 'Oh, he's [Two] looking up his kilt?'

WITH ALMOST NO PROMPTING FROM ME. I just asked her what she thought of the scene! EVEN THE BARBARIAN COULD SEE THE SLASHTASTICNESS OF TWO/JAMIE & I DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO USE ANY WORDS.

But anyway, you know Two's totally looking up Not!Jamie!Jamie's kilt. Just to make sure it really IS Jamie, of course!

- During that scene, I thought I noticed a streak of grey on the back of Pat's head - but that just adds to his sexiness, loves. Just adds!

- HELLO GULLIVER! ::waves::

(also, Bernard Horsfall sharing a scene with Patrick Troughton is visually amusing - Pat's so small in comparison! ::giggle::)

- SURPRISE!ZOE! ::laughs:: Zoe's the ultimate surprise!companion - she's so small & adorable! I want to put her in my pocket.

- A space beatnik, a eighteenth-century Scottish piper & a human computer all walk into a darkened wood . . .

- HOLY SHIT SON, IT'S A UNICORN! ::RUNS:: Jamie's dreams are coming true! So there's hope for you yet, Jamie! ::giggle::

- Entering part three now & as we oft do, we're picking up where we left off in the last story, with Jamie's dream about the unicorn coming true & everybody that's not a Time Lord in a grand panic.

- BUT! They stopped it! They stopped it with reality! Um, more or less.

- The Master sounds v. Davros-esque, doesn't he? (okay, I didn't really make that observation on my own; David Maloney pointed it out in the commentary)

& for those of you that aren't sure, no, this is not THE Master - just someone with the same moniker.

- UNEXPECTED!REDCOAT! & Expected!Not!Jamie!Jamie!fierceness!

- LOLZ, Zoe giving Two the verbal slappage for getting Jamie's face wrong the first time!

- OMG JAMIE HAS HIS FACE BACK! ::jumps on him::

But you have to admit . . . both of them WERE cute. When I first watched this, I couldn't really tell the difference - or rather, I didn't see much of one. BUT THAT WAS WHEN I FIRST SAW THIS SERIAL & BARELY KNEW JAMIE, OKAY? DON'T HURT ME.

- Two likes to shush Jamie often, doesn't he? ::prods him some more::

- TWO/ZOE CLING! AWWW.

- EEEP, A MINOTAUR! ::clings to Two herself:: O, but more saving the day with reality, more or less!

- Hello again, Gulliver! ::curtsies:: The bit where Two finally figures out who he's talking to is TOTALLY one of my favourite bits of the serial - mainly because it was always my favourite parts of the story! & I love how Two says he's looking forward to a long talk with Gulliver one day - aww!

- HEY LOOK, JAMIE'S CLIMBING SOME ROCKS! ::stares:: I'm fond of any fellow who can climb mountains in a kilt, really. ♥

- OMG . . . it's Rapunzel! ::bouncy::

- 'You're not a woodcutter's son by any chance?'

'Uh, no, I'm the son of a piper.'

O, but my lady, Jamie McCrimmon IS something of a prince, he really is! He's a prince among men - valiant, brave & always ready to defend the lives of those he loves. & he he even has the smile of a prince!

- 'It's a great pity you're not a prince. You'd have made rather a good one.'

See what I mean?

- O my, look at where Jamie's ended up now - quite close to where the Master is! & he did it all on his own! ::beams:: & now, he plays with the ticker tape!

- O no . . . the Medusa. ::nibbles fingernails worriedly::

- O, Pat's voice in this . . . ::sways ever so slightly:: This just happens to be one of the many serials which shows why Patrick Troughton gets such a high ranking on the voice!porn scale! (He's a seven point five to an eight! That's high!)

- & now it's part four & Two's got two options - a sword & his pocket mirror! POCKET MIRRORS FTW.

- Jamie has long fingers, I must note. ::twirl:: I like that on fellows!

- & another visit from Gulliver! I rather like the scenes between Jamie & Gulliver - they make me laugh!

- This story is so delightfully metacrackalicious & so full of literary references & stories, just about all of which I know, that it was the idea serial for me to see Two in for the first time, I think.

- Zoe wears Jamie's jacket rather cutely, even though it's rather big on her. But it's cute!

- It's the Karkus! & now, Zoe has one up on Two, which is rather adorable at this moment.

- Also! Zoe's about to have quite a River Tam moment! ::squeals::

- GO ZOE, GO! ::waves pompoms:: KICK HIS ASS! FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!

- & SHE KICKS HIS ASS! ::high-kicks with pompom waving:: ZOE HERIOT FTW! & she did it despite being tiny & in a glittery catsuit! Now THAT'S an awesome girl!

- Two is now wearing the Karkus' cape - & hiding little Zoe in it! ::giggles:: & there's her second surprise appearance! ::smooches her::

- That rocket-shaped thing that Two touches is awfully phallic-looking.

Um, just a note.

- & Two does the most adorable smile I think he ever does just a few moments after that. OMG MY HEART.

- & then he stops being sweet & gets all badass again! FUCK 'EM UP, TWO! ::waves flags::

- 'That's funny, Gulliver walked through there.'

'Gulliver is not real, we are.'

& I love the look on Two's face when he says that. He even does a hand wave!

- Aww, group cling time. ♥♥

- & now . . . here's the Master. Who looks like he's wearing Five's glasses.

- He's a writer who writes a serialised story about a character named Captain Jack Harkaway. UM, ANYONE?

- Dude . . . I totally want to live in the Land of Fiction, for reals.

- Jamie & Zoe managed to escape into a library - but the white robots are there too!

- ZOE & JAMIE GET TRAPPED IN A BOOK WTF?! A French book, no less!

- Now we're at the final part, with Jamie & Zoe trapped in a book & Two has flipped.out.

- HAHA, YOU THINK YOUR TIN ROBOTS CAN GET TWO? IN YOUR FACE - HE'LL CLIMB AWAY!

- O, good, he's safe. But he's so upset about poor Zoe & Jamie. ::hugs him::

- But there they are! But . . . yes, they've been turned into fiction, as the Master said. ::cries:: BUT! Two's got a plan, never fear.

- Heehee, I love how Rapunzel asks Two if he's a prince & he says no. But he IS a Time Lord - would that count?

- O MY FUCKING GOD. ::dies of laughter:: TWO IS ABOUT TO SAVE THE UNIVERSE BY WRITING FANFICTION. SERIOUSLY.

- 'You sent for us, Master?'

::slaps Jamie:: Don't SAY such things! My mind will take them all wrong!

- I like Evil!Jamie & Zoe - they're rather good at it!

- Two's have a moment of sad. Happycat has run out of happy. & ideas. O dear.

- Evil!Jamie & Zoe tricked him! MEANIES! ::pouts::

- So Two's part of the master brain now, eh? Well, that was a mistake to make, I'll say, for now, you've pissed off Two & he will end you.

- Ooo, Jamie!forearms pushing at the book. Yummy! & YAY, THEY'RE OUT OF THE BOOK!

- & TWO'S ABOUT TO SAVE THE WORLD WITH TIME LORD FANFICTION. ILU TWO.

- This is like an improv game between Two & the Master - it's great!

- & now that Jamie & Zoe are out of the book, they're going to save Two! But not with fic, alas.

- But Jamie & Zoe do it in just as nice a way as Two did - PRESS ALL THE BUTTONS & BLOW THE WHOLE DAMN PLACE UP! ::more pompoms::

- LOLZ, JAMIE'S JUST HITTING ANY BUTTON HE CAN & ZOE'S ALL ABOUT THE METHOD.

- & now they're blowing everything up in the room! The robots, that is - not Jamie & Zoe.

- Splendid! Two, Jamie & Zoe are free, along with the Master!

- 'You can't blow up a fictional character, Zoe!'

- O, the TARDIS is back together & off they go! WHEW!

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So, that was a recap-liveblog-what have you of my very first Patrick Troughton serial. & since I hadn't seen it since I'd begin the rewatch-athon, I just LOVED seeing it again - it was like reliving the first time all over again, in a way. I adore this serial so much - it's my third favourite, actually!

Wow, I don't have a lot to say for the end here, so I'll just say that this was a completely awesome story, for both its literary aspects & the total crack factor of it. The crack factor - OMG. Mind-boggling, really. It's something you have to see, I think, to totally enjoy it.

& our final serial for the week is in fact, my second favourite of the Troughton era - The Invasion! (try & guess what the first is. No, really, try & guess!)

The Invasion

- The first part of this serial, sadly, was one of the many burninated serials of Two's era, alas. BUT! We have the original soundtrack & Cosgrove Hall's lovely animation to fix that for us!

- Hee - the dark side of the moon. Two likes Pink Floyd.

- So, the TARDIS came back together, but a huge missile's coming right at them! But luckily, Two managed to set them down on Earth. With cows! AWW.

- ::giggles:: Adventures in making the TARDIS invisible! & they're off to look up Professor Travers!

- Animated!Zoe makes me think of the NANA anime - she looks a bit like Nana Osaki, I think.

- & since I brought it up, the animation of this is just splendid! Very clean, sharp & well-done, I think. Though, of course, it is a bit odd to watch Doctor Who as animation - I've never seen the animated!Ten & Martha, mind you - but it's not too hard to get used to, I think.

- . . . is it bad that I'm still drooling over Zoe when she's animated? ::hides face::

- O! They shot the poor man who helped Two, Jamie & Zoe out of there!

- Ooo, it's good that they got a lift to London!

- & here's our first glance of the sexy miss Isobel Watkins! Even animated, she's sexy! I ♥ Isobel. & her animated form looks a little like Nana Komatsu, I think.

- HEE! Zoe's posing for Isobel! & Isobel doesn't want Jamie to pose! LOLZ!

- ::drools over Zoe & Isobel::

- 'Come on, let's get you fixed up with some gear!'

She's so sixties London! I LOVE HER.

- Ooo, Zoe's quite the pretty model! & I love her boa!

- So, Two & Jamie are off to explore, while Zoe stays behind for some femmeslashy fun with a camera!

- Two punches a computer! Which Zoe will later blow up. But yes, I feel his frustration keenly.

- HEY, IS THAT AN ANIMATED!BENTON I SEE?

- O, hello Animated!Packer . . . can't say I'm delighted. No use pretending.

- HEY WHAT IS THIS TWO & JAMIE JUST GOT GASSED! THE FUCK?! That's no way to treat visitors!

- O, Packer. You just can't wait to break some bones, can you? ::sigh::

- & now we meet an Animated!Tobias Vaughn! A considerably calm man, I see. & a rather genial man as well.

- O! Jamie's been given a little radio! Aww. That's quite kind of Vaughn, isn't it?

- Ooo, Jamie's snippy with Packer, isn't he?

- Wow. Just from the lack of blinking Vaughn does, Two's already suspicious of him. Two's good, isn't he?

- Now into part two, which is the original surviving serial - o, it's quite good to see Two & Jamie properly again.

- WELL HELLO MISS ISOBEL. ::tries not to stare:: Nice legs - & thighs - I have to say!

- O, there's Benton again! ::waves:: & Two & Jamie just got caught by him & that other fellow with him. O my.

- Isobel's Victrola is from Portobello Road! & she & Zoe are having coffee & sandwiches! & being pleasantly femmeslashy together.

- So Benton - in a very snappy suit, I should note - brought Two & Jamie to see the Brigadier! ::squeals:: & he's now the head of UNIT - a baby!UNIT, since it's so new.

- Team Supersexy, a.k.a Isobel & Zoe, are now paying a visit of their own to IE! ::grins:: I love this part.

(& my, those are some short skirts the girls have on! & Isobel isn't wearing tights!)

- O dear . . . the first words from the Cyber brain. ::shivers:: O, o, please, someone shut it up!

- Hee! Computers should know better than to make Zoe Heriot angry - she can kill you with her brain! Literally!

- 'I will not be beaten by this brainless tin box!'

- GO ZOE, GO! ::waves pompoms some more::

- WHOO-HOO! SHE BLEW THAT SILLY THING RIGHT UP! ::high-fives the lady Zoe:: IN YOUR FACE YOU SILLY BIT OF METAL & WIRE!

- O, dear, Zoe just revealed a bit of her unmentionables right there!

- 'Look, Jamie, sandwiches. I'm hungry. Want one?'

'Sure.'

::gigglesnorts:: Yes, never mind where the girls have gone, just have a sandwich!

- Aww, Jamie loves his little radio - 'Don't break it!' - he's got music in his soul. He'd love an iPod, wouldn't he?

- I have to say, I love Isobel's idea of writing on a wall instead of paper - she does have a good point! If I ever had my own place, I would do that, I think.

- Meep, Isobel & Zoe are more or less in the lion's den, aren't they? ::worries for them::

- GRRR! Vaughn is NOT a very nice man, mistreating poor young ladies like that! ::glares::

- 'Splendid little toy this is, Jamie.'

'Aye, but it doesn't play tunes like mine.'

HEEHEE! O, you two are so cute.

- LOLZ, THEY'RE HAVING TOTAL BICKERBICKERBICKER OVER THE RADIO WITH THE BRIG ON THE OTHER LINE! Please, you two, save it for the TARDIS!

- Vaughn, while quite an awesome villain, really does give me the creeps. It's hard to explain why without ruining the rest of the story, but he's quite spooky to watch.

- Now Two & Jamie will run around walls for a bit in their quite adorable way . . .

- ::glares:: I don't approve of Zoe & Isobel being stuffed in a box like that!

- & I certainly DON'T like Packer pointing guns at Two & Jamie! ::kicks him::

- Part three & a quick recap of what happened before . . . BASTARD! Don't you DARE shove Jamie about like that, or he'll give you just as good a shove! ::growls::

- Is it weird that I sort of like Packer, even though he's a completely sadistic bastard? Or maybe that's just me pitying him . . . hmm.

- Vaughn's charming, genial way is a bit scary at this point.

- 'Oh, that's quite simple - I hate computers and refuse to be bullied by them.'

Much like the lady Zoe! ::grins::

- Packer scares me. Only a coward would hurt a defenceless girl, no matter how often they go around actually thumping people! Grrrr . . .

- 'Much as I detest violence, I find it difficult to restrain Packer's . . . indisputable power of persuasion.'

. . . what? I didn't say anything! WHAT?

- Hey, it's Professor Kettlewell Watkins!

- Two's a sharp fellow, isn't he? He's onto this trap much faster than even Professor Watkins!

- 'Resourceful'? O, that only scratches the surface of how awesome Two is. ::smirks::

- O my! Jamie's ready to get into a fistfight to get his little sister back! ::glares at Vaughn some more:: Jamie's hardly making an idle threat, sir - he'll run you through if you hurt Zoe, o, he will.

- EEE! Two & Jamie are about to get in the lift now - I ♥ this bit.

- 'Packer - Mr Packer, I obviously can't let you hurt Zoe, and so, I'll have to tell you all you want to know, now.'

'You mean you're willing to talk?'

'Yes. I'm sure Mr Vaughn would - oh, there he is now.'

(Two shoves Packer quite hard to the floor & runs into the lift with Jamie)

FUCK YES! Two: 1, Packer: 0. I LOVE that scene.

- & then Two & Jamie grabbing onto each other in the lift out of sheer terror! ::squeals:: I FUCKING ADORE THAT MOMENT - IT'S ONE OF THEIR BEST.

- LOLZ, Packer fucked up. HARD. ::laughs:: I DO so love watching Packer get pwned by Two & Jamie.

- AWW, Two wiping Jamie's face off. ♥ No, I just didn't write total smutfic in my head over that, really. & I love how Jamie says Two's 'a clever wee chappie.' You can hear the love in his voice.

- Every time I get into a lift now, I think of this scene. Then I actually look up at the ceiling of the lift to see if there's a way into the lift shaft. But to be fair, I actually get a little uncomfortable in lifts, due to having been stuck in one when I was a wee lassie.

- ::snickers:: I love how Two & Jamie are practically crawling all over each other when they finally get to the roof.

- GRATUITOUS MOMENT OF ALMOST SEEING UP JAMIE'S KILT! ::APPLAUDS::

- ACK, JAMIE, HOW COULD YOU HIDE IN THAT CRATE?! It looks so much like a coffin!

- & FUCK YOU AND ME - THERE'S SOMETHING IN THERE WITH YOU!

- Now, we've reached part four, which was also a victim of burnination, but we've got animation & soundtrack to fix that! IN YOUR FACE, BBC. ::blows raspberries::

- I admit it, I would flip my shit if I was in a crate with something MOVING. I don't care WHAT it would be, I would flip the fuck on out. Jamie's better at keeping cool than me, I'd say.

- Emotion as a weapon against the Cybermen. In addition to radiation, gold & nail varnish remover. As far as weapons go, that's a good one I think!

- Ooo, Vaughn's letting Packer sass him a bit. Just . . . noting that. ::smiles::

- Animated!Brigadier!

- Nana & Hachi Zoe & Isobel are back, finally! They've been locked up, but they're back & otherwise okay. ::breathes::

- O, JAMIE! ::swoons:: He's off to save Zoe & Isobel! That's pretty princely behaviour!

- Now they're being shot at! ::panics::

- O, Jamie doesn't do well in flying machines . . . & he's being shot at! He must have been so scared. But he made it up the ladder & everyone's okay!

- It sounds very much like Two is starting to put all the pieces together, one fragment at a time now . . .

- Hee! Two & Jamie in a canoe!

- Uh-oh . . . I don't like the sound of Two saying he was right . . .

- O MY GOD, IT'S A FUCKING CYBERMAN. A FUCKING CYBERMAN! ::runs very fast up a tree::

- Moving back into the rest of the surviving serials for this recap . . . JESUS CHRIST IT'S A CYBERMAN! GET IN THE CAR!

- Two & Jamie are going a-rowing in the canoe again!

- ::giggles:: Isobel's flirting with Captain Turner!

- Meeeeeeeep, I really have no words for what to say now that the Cybermen have finally appeared. Just . . . um, scared now. Cybermen do that to me, as we well know.

- Also, I noticed that the Cybermen have a bit of different design from the last time I saw them in The Wheel in Space - more robotic-looking, I think. But they still creep me out!

- HA! The Brig doesn't get put down so easily, not even by a superior! ::grins::

- I think, that after the Cybermen in Tomb of the Cybermen, the way the Cybermen are designed in this story is my favourite look for them. They look spookier & more like the iconic Cybermen that I've seen in The Five Doctors, though they'll undergo more of a change by then as well. But here, they look more familiar to me, which makes them a bit less terrifying, but still awesome & still keeps them as one of my favourite antagonists for the Doctor.

- Jesus Christ on a cracker, I wouldn't get that close to a Cyberman unless I had some kind of gun pointed at me. No fucking way.

- So, we now have an insane Cyberman in the sewers. O, this is a great thing. ::sigh::

- Ooooo, Isobel has a plan! & her photography skills are coming in quite handy there!

- ::glares:: I do think I side with the lady Isobel on this - a girl is PERFECTLY capable of snapping a few shots of a Cyberman! MEN! ::sighs angrily::

- I have to admit, I'm a bit confused as to how one's body can be Cybernetic & their brain still be human. In the Cyberman audios, humans are pumped full of neural dampening fluid which can make humans comatose, or in one case, entirely Cybernetic. Is that how it could be done? ::thinks::

- O, Jamie! ::sighs & glares a bit:: You've known some very tough lassies before - how can you think that girls aren't capable of taking down a few Cybermen?!

- & while we're at it, DO stop copping feels on Isobel in the name of chivalry! ::pokes him::

- O no, they're surrounded on ALL sides by the Cybermen! NOT a good thing, not at all.

- Moving into episode six now & the three of them are still trapped by the Cybermen - but it's the crazy one they encountered! It left them alone, luckily!

- & the batshit Cyberman appears to have attacked its saner friends - but not before one of them could kill someone!

- EEEEEK, IT HAS JAMIE'S LEG! ::screams:: & after a bunch of grenades, one of them STILL lived!

- Isobel is NOT amused by the idea fact that her work looks a bit fake. I don't blame her. ::pets::

- Professor Watkins describes Vaughn as sadistic, a megalomaniac & insane.

All of which I applied quite strongly to Salamander - um. Perhaps he & Vaughn are a similar sort.

(which reminds me of how I said to [livejournal.com profile] nentari that if Salamander didn't actually die when he got sucked out of the TARDIS . . . then what would happen if the Cybermen found him? He IS everything they'd want in a Cyberman - or a Cyberleader, anyway . . . & I totally had to make us stop talking about it because it was freaking me out.)

- Aww, Isobel's made tea for everyone. & aww, Jamie's sleeping. How sweet!

- HE KILLED GREGORY! He let the Cybermen just KILL him in the sewers! Just - I - um - OKAY! This man IS truly without a heart. The Cybermen must have removed it when they made his body Cybernetic then.

- Aww, Jamie's off to sleep again. & he says he was in the middle of a lovely dream. Teehee!

- 'Honestly, Jamie. Cybermen underneath London and all you can think about is your sleep!'

::pets Zoe::

- Um, I'm not going to say how sad Packer looks when he seems to think that he won't get to rule the world. Really. I'm not.

- DOCTOR! ::screams again:: His depolariser fell off & he just collapsed! O, but Zoe's putting it back onto his neck!

- & we just saw THE most famous shot of the Cybermen in all of Doctor Who history - the whole lot of them walking in front of . . . Saint Paul's Cathedral, I think it is? O, I think I've got that wrong, but you know the one I mean!

- Now onto part seven, which left off at the Cybermen just exploding out into London streets.

- Zoe's back in her sparkly catsuit, I see! YAY!

- O, Two, you look rather unwell. ::hugs::

- Eeep, Packer's come for poor Professor Watkins. But - FUCKERS SHOT JAMIE IN THE LEG! ::GROWLS:: NOW YOU'VE REALLY GONE & MADE PEOPLE MAD!

- The bit where Zoe comes in & tells Two of how Jamie's doing after being shot actually has a very funny story to it - in the commentary, I think Frazer asks Wendy why she's smiling in that scene & she says that she's not sure if it's because of what she said, or if it was because Pat goosed her at that moment. ::gigglesnorts:: Then later, she says there were so many goosings that she can't remember one from the other. LOOOOVE.

- Aww, Two's sending Zoe with the Brigadier! ::beams:: I like that plan, actually. When dealing with computers & missiles, it's always handy to have a Zoe Heriot along!

- Two is either crazy brave or a complete madman to go back into Vaughn's office, seriously. ::bites nails:: But I've got the faith in Two, so I know he'll be alright.

- ::sighs over Patrick Troughton none-too-quietly:: O, so wonderfully pretty.

- & continuing on in a fanbunny's vein, Zoe's t e h sexy when her catsuit's not zipped all the way up.

- O, but you CAN get all of them - just give Zoe a chance to work out how to do it! IN THIRTY SECONDS, WHILE WEARING A SPARKLY CATSUIT. BEAT THAT, MOTHERFUCKERS! ::tackleglomps Zoe::

'You'd better be right.'

'I am.'

Zoe >>>>>>> everything that isn't her companions & Charley Pollard.

- & the destruction of the invasion fleet = the Cybermen planning on blowing up all life on Earth. Uh, I thought that was NOT in the plan?

- Now we've come to the final part of this serial, part eight & the Cybermen are now altering their plans to kill everyone on Earth. SO NOT GOOD.

- & because she's so awesome, Zoe got her own little gaggle of army fanboys! ::giggles:: Rock on, miss Zoe!

- Okay, the fact that the Cybermen will destroy THEIR OWN KIND in the process of destroying the planet is CHILLING. I mean, CHILLING.

- & Vaughn's device came in handy to blow up the Cyber brain! Well, it works, then!

- Shit son, Packer's flipped his lid - & he finally got his! Death by Cyberman - not a pretty way to go. No no no.

- I kind of feel sorry for Vaughn now - his whole plan just went up in smoke in less than five seconds.

- Okay, Vaughn's gone off on his crazy train now, but he's agreed to help Two. & not out of a desire for redemption, but out of hatred for the Cybermen, which, as [livejournal.com profile] nentari & I discussed, was the best way for Vaughn to end up helping the Doctor - if he'd done it out of desire to redeem himself, it would have just totally wrecked his character. Therefore, revenge as his motivation is the best choice out of the two.

- You know, as much as I adore the Classic!Cybermen, I LOVE watching them get killed. I know, that sounds really perverse in a way, but they usually get killed in some pretty awesome ways - like in The Five Doctors & in The Invasion.

- LOLZ, ONE JUST FELL OFF A BUILDING! I LOVE that one!

- Hmm. You'd have thought that by now, UNIT would have learnt that bullets just don't DO anything to Cybermen!

- Well, a bazooka seems to work, apparently.

- & Isobel's snapping away! ::laughs::

- O SNAP! THEY SHOT VAUGHN!

- O, MY GIDDY AUNT! NOW THEY'RE SHOOTING AT TWO! (in one of Pat's CLASSIC moments as the Doctor, I should add! I LOVE that crazy jumping up & down he does!)

- HEE! Isobel wants Two to be her model for just a quick second! ::cracks up:: Mmm, her taste in models is great!

- Twelve minutes. Twelve very long, very tense minutes.

- RIGHT ON TARGET! Blew the Cybermen right out of the sky!

- Aww. Zoe looks a bit sad that Isobel will be travelling all over the world with her camera. She'll totally miss her.

- & we're back in the hayfield where all of this began . . . now they've just got to locate the TARDIS! ::giggles::

- O, Two's found it! After making it all visible again . . . off the three of them go!

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I don't remember how long it took me to actually see this serial when I was seeing more of Two's stuff, but when I saw it, it immediately became one of my favourites. I loved how epic a story it was, & I adored seeing the first beginnings of UNIT & seeing the Brigadier with Two & his Team TARDIS. & of course I loved Isobel. She's easily one of my favourite girls of sixties Who, even if she wasn't officially a companion. But she'd have been a fun one!

& of course, I did so love seeing the Cybermen again, in one of their best serials EVER, in my opinion. For the Cybermen, The Invasion & Tomb of the Cybermen are their best serials, I think.

So, that's it for this week! Next week I'll be doing The Krotons, The Seeds of Death & the audio & sole surviving serial of The Space Pirates.

Then . . . I have The War Games. ::exhales:: Wish me luck, guys?

Previous recaps
The Dalek Invasion of Earth
The Time Meddler
The War Machines
The Smugglers
The Tenth Planet
The Power of the Daleks
The Highlanders
The Underwater Menace
The Moonbase
The Macra Terror
The Faceless Ones
The Evil of the Daleks
The Evil of the Daleks - audio version

Tomb of the Cybermen
The Great Space Elevator (Victoria's Companion Chronicle)
The Abominable Snowmen - audio & serial
The Ice Warriors - audio
The Enemy of the World - audio & serial
The Web of Fear - audio & serial
Fury From the Deep - audio

The Wheel in Space - audio & serial
Fear of the Daleks (Zoe's Companion Chronicle)

Date: 2009-08-01 10:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nentari.livejournal.com
I always thought that the Dominators in their uniforms, looked like giant turtles. I mean, they do! They look like their heads could pop down into their uniforms at any moment!
That's the impression I sometimes get - though usually it feels to me that they're actually wearing sofas on their shoulders (which, if you think about it, makes them match the Dulcian fashion in a way).

::giggles:: From the back, the Dominators really look like turtles! Turtles covered in seaweed, that is.
Hopefully not mutant seaweed, since Victoria's no longer around.

::sighs:: Dulcians . . . they're . . . the way their minds work rather bother me. Talk about thinking inside your box!
Indeed. They're supposed to have superior intelligence, but with their mentality they end up sounding rather thick. Well, apart from Cully, of course.
Incidentally, with their high brains and two hearts, I'm wondering if Dulcians and Gallifreyans might descent from the same species, the same way Vulcans and Romulans were related in Star Trek. That would also explain the thickness, since Time Lords at times are just as infuriating.

ROCKS ARE FALLING, BUT NOBODY'S DYING YET.
That's because Jo Rowling didn't write this one. Shame - it would be fun to watch a battle between Quarks and House Elfs.

I LOVE HIM. ::flails:: Even on alien worlds, Jamie McCrimmon will KICK YOUR ASS! With rocks, if he has to! HOW COULD YOU NOT LOVE HIM?
There's NO WAY anyone can NOT love Jamie.

Random fashion note four: there's just a few occasions where you can see . . . well . . . rather nicely up Jamie's kilt if you're looking . . . which I wasn't, I just happened to notice it!
Fourteen: Oh, I'm suuuure you didn't, dear. :P

how far are we into this? Seven minutes or less? & they HAVEN'T STOPPED TOUCHING EACH OTHER ONCE. I remember being all 'OMG. NOT ONLY WAS EVERYONE RIGHT ABOUT YOU TWO, BUT YOU'RE BOTH EXCEEDING MY EXPECTATIONS!'
Two/Jamie: so canon it hurts.

I always loved that bit - her not flipping out, while Jamie does.
And then after they dematerialize, Jamie starts acting all macho again and says "Well, there you are. What was all the panic about?" which makes me squee every. Single. Time. Oh, Jamie, never change.

I think this was when I totally fell for him, that look on his face when he can see Scotland on the scanner - my heart practically exploded from all the sweetness & the TOTAL CUTENESS of the moment. O, JAMIE LOVELY. How could you not love a sweetheart like that?
He looks like a sweet little child, such is the strenght of his joy, and it makes my heart melt.

Eeek, the scary, tempting versions of Jamie & Zoe all in white are creeeeepy! But I LOVE Zoe's white sparkly catsuit!
For me, it's the combination of Jamie's white kilt and socks - he does look as if he's from Pan's People, as Frazer says jokingly in the commentaries.

Jamie's voice seems to have dropped about three octaves at this point . . .
And gained a Glaswegian accent, for some reason. :P

Okay, okay, footnote! When I was a little girl, Gulliver's Travels was one of my favourite stories to read.
I've never actually read it, but watched many different adaptations of it - and I've recently discovered that the very first of these adaptations I remember watching, when I was about four, had Lis Sladen in it!
My favourite book ever since I was little, I should point out, is Don Quixote. I wish he would have made an appearance...

(& a note . . . Two doesn't seem quite as . . . hands-on with his Not!Jamie!Jamie as he is with his proper Jamie. Or that could just be me.)
No, definitely not you - though he probably just needed some time to adjust to the idea, as later on he grabs Hamish!Jamie's legs and peeks up his kilt.

I remember showing this bit to the barbarian at one point, & when it got to the actual tree climbing, she asked, 'Oh, he's [Two] looking up his kilt?'
SEE WHAT I MEAN? Even the barbarian noticed it!

Date: 2009-08-01 12:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riverdresses.livejournal.com
That's the impression I sometimes get - though usually it feels to me that they're actually wearing sofas on their shoulders (which, if you think about it, makes them match the Dulcian fashion in a way).

OMG, that's actually quite a good point! Sofas, or the backs of very stuffed armchairs! So they do match the Dulcian fashions! ::giggle::

Hopefully not mutant seaweed, since Victoria's no longer around.

Yes, that WOULD be a problem! But I'm sure Zoe could defeat mutant seaweed if she had to! :D

Indeed. They're supposed to have superior intelligence, but with their mentality they end up sounding rather thick. Well, apart from Cully, of course.
Incidentally, with their high brains and two hearts, I'm wondering if Dulcians and Gallifreyans might descent from the same species, the same way Vulcans and Romulans were related in Star Trek. That would also explain the thickness, since Time Lords at times are just as infuriating.


I quite liked Cully - he was sort of like the Doctor, in many ways, which I just realised.
& I really like your theory of the possibility that Dulcians & Gallifreyans could be related or descend from each other - on a sillier note, they do both have rather tacky fashions on both worlds as well. But I agree - it could be possible!

That's because Jo Rowling didn't write this one. Shame - it would be fun to watch a battle between Quarks and House Elfs.

HEE! Yes!

There's NO WAY anyone can NOT love Jamie.

SERIOUSLY! It's just . . . it's just impossible not to love him!

Fourteen: Oh, I'm suuuure you didn't, dear. :P

I SWEAR, I DIDN'T! ::looks innocent::

Two/Jamie: so canon it hurts.

HELL. YES. I swear, all I needed to see was that first scene with Jamie holding onto Two & flipping out over the volcano & I was shipping them RIGHT FROM THE GET-GO. Which is probably part of why that serial has such a warm place in my heart. ♥

And then after they dematerialize, Jamie starts acting all macho again and says "Well, there you are. What was all the panic about?" which makes me squee every. Single. Time. Oh, Jamie, never change.

::hugs Jamie:: He's SO ADORABLE, ISN'T HE?

He looks like a sweet little child, such is the strenght of his joy, and it makes my heart melt.

Same here - it was such a lovely moment & it will ALWAYS be one of my favourites. & it's DEFINITELY what I think of when I hear Across the Universe.

For me, it's the combination of Jamie's white kilt and socks - he does look as if he's from Pan's People, as Frazer says jokingly in the commentaries.

O yes, those socks were rather spooky! & who thought we'd ever think that of a pair of socks? :P

And gained a Glaswegian accent, for some reason. :P

::giggles:: That too!

I've never actually read it, but watched many different adaptations of it - and I've recently discovered that the very first of these adaptations I remember watching, when I was about four, had Lis Sladen in it!
My favourite book ever since I was little, I should point out, is Don Quixote. I wish he would have made an appearance...


OMG!!! I didn't know she did an adaptation of Gulliver's Travels! I'd love to see her in that. :D
& I think one of the few books I DIDN'T reed when I was wee, was Don Quixote, or I might have just read parts of it; I'm not sure.

No, definitely not you - though he probably just needed some time to adjust to the idea, as later on he grabs Hamish!Jamie's legs and peeks up his kilt.

True, true! & I'm glad it wasn't all just me then. :D

SEE WHAT I MEAN? Even the barbarian noticed it!

I KNOW! & she'd not understand such things if you sat her down & explained it WITH DIAGRAMS! & she STILL saw Two peek up his kilt! I WAS STUNNED. Then she asked me if Jamie wore anything under his kilt. My face was THIS: :O

Date: 2009-08-01 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nentari.livejournal.com
But I'm sure Zoe could defeat mutant seaweed if she had to! :D
Yes, she could give us some very potents screams as well if necessary.

I quite liked Cully - he was sort of like the Doctor, in many ways, which I just realised.
Yes, his dissatisfaction with the ways of his world and his wish for adventure are very Doctorish. I can easily imagine an ageing Cully stealing a ship and running away from Dulkis with his granddaughter years later.

I SWEAR, I DIDN'T! ::looks innocent::
Fourteen: Oh, I believe you. *sweet smile of disbelief*

*uses appropriate icon*

::hugs Jamie:: He's SO ADORABLE, ISN'T HE?
I'm sure if you'll look up the word "adorable" on a dictionary, you'll find "Jamie McCrimmon" as a definition for it. (Well, probably not, but it should be there. :P)

OMG!!! I didn't know she did an adaptation of Gulliver's Travels! I'd love to see her in that. :D
It's a 4-part miniseries that only deals with the Lilliput part of the novel (rather aptly, then, because it's called Gulliver in Lilliput :P). It was written and directed by Barry Letts, and Lis played Lady Flimnap - who becomes a much stronger character here than she was in the novel, as the story focuses on a love triangle between her, Gulliver, and the queen. Because of this miniseries (and of a children's show years later in which a group of Lilliputian castaways are protected by a couple of English children) I was for years under the impression that Gulliver's Travels consisted only of that part of the story.
I should also point out that, in the TV adaptation starring Ted Danson, the Lilliputian scenes were shot in Portugal, in places I'm very familiar with - so in a way I'm living in Lilliput!

& I think one of the few books I DIDN'T reed when I was wee, was Don Quixote, or I might have just read parts of it; I'm not sure.
My first contact with Don Quixote was through a cartoon series that was incredibly faithful to the book - to the point that it even included a scene where Quixote danced in the middle of the woods stark naked. By the age of three I had all sort of Don Quixote merchandising products, from notebooks to stickers, and I used to give my dolls Princess Leia buns, as Quixote's beloved, Dulcinea, also wore them. Oh yes, and Quixote/Dulcinea was my first ship, at the age of three, and I used to doodle cartoon stories about them - my very first fics! When I became old enough to read the actual book, it took my a while to gain courage to read it with fear of becoming disappointed, but when I eventually did I went OMG THIS IS EVEN BETTER THAN I REMEMBERED!

Then she asked me if Jamie wore anything under his kilt. My face was THIS: :O
Oh dear.

Date: 2009-08-02 10:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riverdresses.livejournal.com
Yes, she could give us some very potents screams as well if necessary.

O yes! & she'd probably rig up a whole sound system to make them reverberate in UNDER A MINUTE. :D Gotta love Zoe.

Yes, his dissatisfaction with the ways of his world and his wish for adventure are very Doctorish. I can easily imagine an ageing Cully stealing a ship and running away from Dulkis with his granddaughter years later.

THIS, RIGHT HERE. ::nods:: & it should really be fic, if it isn't already. :D

Fourteen: Oh, I believe you. *sweet smile of disbelief*

WHY AM I NEVER BELIEVED BY ANYONE?! ::pouts::

I'm sure if you'll look up the word "adorable" on a dictionary, you'll find "Jamie McCrimmon" as a definition for it. (Well, probably not, but it should be there. :P)

::goes to alter the dictionaries of the world:: Agreed! & YES, it SHOULD be there. ::nodnod::

It's a 4-part miniseries that only deals with the Lilliput part of the novel (rather aptly, then, because it's called Gulliver in Lilliput :P). It was written and directed by Barry Letts, and Lis played Lady Flimnap - who becomes a much stronger character here than she was in the novel, as the story focuses on a love triangle between her, Gulliver, and the queen. Because of this miniseries (and of a children's show years later in which a group of Lilliputian castaways are protected by a couple of English children) I was for years under the impression that Gulliver's Travels consisted only of that part of the story.

O my! Yes, I would quite like to see that. :D
& actually, when I was small, his travels to Liliput WERE all I'd read - & now that I've read the full stories, it was also abridged in places - but I think I did know that he did a lot more travelling than that. (um . . . it was only last year that I finally got my own copy proper!)

I should also point out that, in the TV adaptation starring Ted Danson, the Lilliputian scenes were shot in Portugal, in places I'm very familiar with - so in a way I'm living in Lilliput!

EEEP! I can come visit, y/n? :D

My first contact with Don Quixote was through a cartoon series that was incredibly faithful to the book - to the point that it even included a scene where Quixote danced in the middle of the woods stark naked. By the age of three I had all sort of Don Quixote merchandising products, from notebooks to stickers, and I used to give my dolls Princess Leia buns, as Quixote's beloved, Dulcinea, also wore them. Oh yes, and Quixote/Dulcinea was my first ship, at the age of three, and I used to doodle cartoon stories about them - my very first fics! When I became old enough to read the actual book, it took my a while to gain courage to read it with fear of becoming disappointed, but when I eventually did I went OMG THIS IS EVEN BETTER THAN I REMEMBERED!

AWWWWW! That's so adorable! My pappy & I did something like that for a show I liked when I was really small - he'd write & draw pictures for me & I always loved reading them. It was only in the last few years that I realise that it TOTALLY counted as fic & as my very first fandom!

Oh dear.

YES. I think my reaction was, in addition to the face, me being all, 'MOTHER! You're not supposed to ask me that!' ::falls over::

Date: 2009-08-02 10:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nentari.livejournal.com
O yes! & she'd probably rig up a whole sound system to make them reverberate in UNDER A MINUTE. :D
Yes, she certainly has the brains for it. I wonder what she could accomplish if she managed to steal the sonic screwdriver off Two and tinker around with it.

& it should really be fic, if it isn't already. :D
Yes, someone definitely needs to write this.

WHY AM I NEVER BELIEVED BY ANYONE?! ::pouts::
Aw, don't let Fourteen wind you up. She loves to tease people by using the "sure you did" card. Jamie is in a constant state of scarlet cheeks because of it.

& actually, when I was small, his travels to Liliput WERE all I'd read - & now that I've read the full stories, it was also abridged in places - but I think I did know that he did a lot more travelling than that. (um . . . it was only last year that I finally got my own copy proper!)
Ah well, that's book editors for you.

EEEP! I can come visit, y/n? :D
Of course - just look where you're going so that you won't step on a building by accident. :P

My pappy & I did something like that for a show I liked when I was really small - he'd write & draw pictures for me & I always loved reading them. It was only in the last few years that I realise that it TOTALLY counted as fic & as my very first fandom!
Aw, that's so sweet!

YES. I think my reaction was, in addition to the face, me being all, 'MOTHER! You're not supposed to ask me that!' ::falls over::
*grins* Mothers, eh?

Date: 2009-08-02 12:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riverdresses.livejournal.com
Yes, she certainly has the brains for it. I wonder what she could accomplish if she managed to steal the sonic screwdriver off Two and tinker around with it.

YES SHE DID. ::grins:: An object like that would be catnip for miss Zoe! (do you think she'd attempt to make her own?)

Yes, someone definitely needs to write this.

::looks longingly at fandom:: PLEEEEASE, FANDOM? We need more Two-era fic!

Aw, don't let Fourteen wind you up. She loves to tease people by using the "sure you did" card. Jamie is in a constant state of scarlet cheeks because of it.

I'm not surprised! ::tries not to look all pink-cheeked:: I'll buy Jamie a tea for such. ::hops off to fetch it::

Ah well, that's book editors for you.

Yes! ::pouts:: Though my childhood copy was meant for small ones & such - but the illustrations were lovely. I still have the whole set that it came along with. (they're rather old books & they were a gift to me by someone my father knew) I think I'd still read that version though! :D Especially if I can't find my proper copy.

Of course - just look where you're going so that you won't step on a building by accident. :P

Hee! I shall remember such, then. ^_^

Aw, that's so sweet!

I'm horribly silly, but I wish I still HAD some of those - he used to write them in grape-scented markers, I think - & he was rather good at the drawings!

*grins* Mothers, eh?

Aye, yes indeed! But she agrees with me that Jamie's cute. & that so is Zoe's backside in all its sparkly glory. ::giggles::

Date: 2009-08-02 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nentari.livejournal.com
(do you think she'd attempt to make her own?)
Well, I'm not sure. Nyssa was the one with the technical skills, and therefore more likely to build her own screwdriver, while Zoe dabbed more into theory.

I'm not surprised! ::tries not to look all pink-cheeked:: I'll buy Jamie a tea for such. ::hops off to fetch it::
I think he'll appreciate it. And if you can, try and find a bottle of Grape Nehi for Radar, since he also fell victim of Fourteen's teasing.

Though my childhood copy was meant for small ones & such - but the illustrations were lovely. I still have the whole set that it came along with.
I had a set like that, with vinyl records for me to listen to the stories while I read them. It didn't have Gulliver's Travels, but I remember it having 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea with the illustrations depicting the cast from the 1960s movie - Kirk Douglas as Ned Land looked rather dishy as a watercoloured image. :)

Aye, yes indeed! But she agrees with me that Jamie's cute. & that so is Zoe's backside in all its sparkly glory. ::giggles::
*laughs*

Date: 2009-08-02 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riverdresses.livejournal.com
Well, I'm not sure. Nyssa was the one with the technical skills, and therefore more likely to build her own screwdriver, while Zoe dabbed more into theory.

Hmm, good point - yes, I think Nyssa would be more the best one to build her own - after Romana, of course. :P

Hee - imagine Zoe meeting our lovely Kitten of Traken! What would happen, you think?

I think he'll appreciate it. And if you can, try and find a bottle of Grape Nehi for Radar, since he also fell victim of Fourteen's teasing.

Of course! ::splashes off in search of requested drinks::

I had a set like that, with vinyl records for me to listen to the stories while I read them. It didn't have Gulliver's Travels, but I remember it having 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea with the illustrations depicting the cast from the 1960s movie - Kirk Douglas as Ned Land looked rather dishy as a watercoloured image. :)

O, I had something like that when I was tiny as well - but mine were all Disney & on cassette. I DID have Gulliver's Travels & Alice in Wonderland by themselves on tape, & even now, I can still remember how both were read. & when I read Gulliver's Travels, no matter what version, I can still hear the tape in my head. I wish we still had it, actually.

Ah, memory. ♥

Date: 2009-08-02 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nentari.livejournal.com
Hee - imagine Zoe meeting our lovely Kitten of Traken! What would happen, you think?
Fireworks, I believe. :D

O, I had something like that when I was tiny as well - but mine were all Disney & on cassette.
Mine were Disney too - one of the stories had Mickey Mouse, and another the characters of The Jungle Book. And later on I got another Disney collection with cassettes, which also had Alice in Wonderland.

Speaking of Disney characters, what do you think of this?

Date: 2009-08-03 08:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riverdresses.livejournal.com
Fireworks, I believe. :D

Now I'm imagining Zoe with a face like this: ♥____♥ That's ANOTHER companion team-up that would be TOTALLY awesome to see, like Charley & Victoria! :D

(& speaking of such, a friend of mine suggested I write Charley/Victoria. I . . . I am suddenly tempted. Hey, if there can be Zoe/Charley smut, why shouldn't there be Charley/Victoria fluff? :D)

Mine were Disney too - one of the stories had Mickey Mouse, and another the characters of The Jungle Book. And later on I got another Disney collection with cassettes, which also had Alice in Wonderland.

The only one, oddly, that I can remember from my set is Pinocchio, actually. Though it was never a favourite of mine, I did like listening to it.

& o, what a picture! I WAS going to say that's quite funny - until I saw Aurora beating up Alice! BRB, SAVING ALICE.

Date: 2009-08-03 10:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nentari.livejournal.com
I've just came back from the employment office, where I went to officialize my situation, and left Company of Friends downloading while I was away - and now it's ready! I'll see if the zip file is okay when I get back from lunch. :)

That's ANOTHER companion team-up that would be TOTALLY awesome to see, like Charley & Victoria! :D
Or Fitz and Jamie! (well, I'm not sure about awesome, but it would certainly be interesting)

(& speaking of such, a friend of mine suggested I write Charley/Victoria. I . . . I am suddenly tempted. Hey, if there can be Zoe/Charley smut, why shouldn't there be Charley/Victoria fluff? :D)
Yes, it could work and would definitely be adorable. :)

& o, what a picture! I WAS going to say that's quite funny - until I saw Aurora beating up Alice! BRB, SAVING ALICE.
Yes, Aurora is being quite naughty, isn't she? And Snow White looks uncannily like me, apart from the hair and lack of glasses. :P

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Date: 2009-08-01 10:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nentari.livejournal.com
I used to watch a show where Bernard Horsfall played the father of a very young (20 years old!) and very baby-faced Tony Head. It gives me some weird thoughts about Who meta...

GO ZOE, GO! ::waves pompoms:: KICK HIS ASS! FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!
*sings* Work it, make it, do it, makes us, harder, better, faster, stronger...
I'm sorry, but I can't watch this without humming that song.

He's a writer who writes a serialised story about a character named Captain Jack Harkaway. UM, ANYONE?
I should point out that this means the Master is very likely Frank Richards, who indeed wrote stories featuring Jack Harkaway - I have the feeling RTD and Steven Moffatt might have used those stories as inspiration when they created Jack.
Incidentally, when The Celestial Toymaker was first broadcast, Frank Richards' representatives issued a complaint to the BBC because they felt that one of Celly's dolls, a boy called Cyril, was a blatant copy of Richards' most famous character, Billy Bunter. The BBC had to issue a voice-over disclaimer at the end of episode 4 to avoid legal action.

HEE! Zoe's posing for Isobel! & Isobel doesn't want Jamie to pose! LOLZ!
He looks as if he's been slapped on the face when she says "Not you!" Poor Jamie... *pets*

HEY, IS THAT AN ANIMATED!BENTON I SEE?
WHY YES, IT IS!

'I will not be beaten by this brainless tin box!'
*feels the urge to quote Daft Punk once again*

::gigglesnorts:: Yes, never mind where the girls have gone, just have a sandwich!
In the Two/Jamie world, sandwiches > anything else in the world.

Hey, it's Professor Kettlewell Watkins!
The first time I watched Robot I went OMG PROFESSOR WATKINS! And then I spent the entire serial giggling at his hair.

I love how Jamie says Two's 'a clever wee chappie.' You can hear the love in his voice.
That line (and especially the way he says it) fills me with glee.

Two & Jamie are going a-rowing in the canoe again!
*sporfle* Ever since I first listened to this serial's commentaries I cannot hear the word "canoe" without suffering from a giggling fit.

I have to admit, I'm a bit confused as to how one's body can be Cybernetic & their brain still be human.
It depends on how the conversion is done, I think. I suppose most of the time they'll go for the brain first, but in cases like Toberman the Cyber-influence on the brain was weak (just enough to make him loyal until a more thorough operation could be done on him) and was quickly neutralized, while with Vaughn and Packer the deal seems to have been to leave the brains alone and work just on the rest.

This man IS truly without a heart. The Cybermen must have removed it when they made his body Cybernetic then.
Personally, I doubt he ever had one.

O, MY GIDDY AUNT! NOW THEY'RE SHOOTING AT TWO! (in one of Pat's CLASSIC moments as the Doctor, I should add! I LOVE that crazy jumping up & down he does!)
That is one truly iconic moment.

Date: 2009-08-01 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riverdresses.livejournal.com
I used to watch a show where Bernard Horsfall played the father of a very young (20 years old!) and very baby-faced Tony Head. It gives me some weird thoughts about Who meta...

O, goodness me! Do I wish to ask? Of course I do. :P

I'm sorry, but I can't watch this without humming that song.

It's perfect for that moment! & if my iTunes hadn't EATEN ITSELF, I'd have it on now! ::bops along to your singing::

I should point out that this means the Master is very likely Frank Richards, who indeed wrote stories featuring Jack Harkaway - I have the feeling RTD and Steven Moffatt might have used those stories as inspiration when they created Jack.

Hmm - in anything I've seen about this, I've never seen that mentioned ANYWHERE - & I've gone through all but two extras on my copy. But I'd definitely agree that RTD & Steven Moffat must have borrowed something there - at least name-wise. You don't meet many people with such lovely names like that, much less read about them!

Incidentally, when The Celestial Toymaker was first broadcast, Frank Richards' representatives issued a complaint to the BBC because they felt that one of Celly's dolls, a boy called Cyril, was a blatant copy of Richards' most famous character, Billy Bunter. The BBC had to issue a voice-over disclaimer at the end of episode 4 to avoid legal action.

Hmm, interesting! But I assume nothing was fussed over for this serial?

He looks as if he's been slapped on the face when she says "Not you!" Poor Jamie... *pets*

He DOES! Poor baby! ::ruffles his hair:: & she even snapped Two later on! But no snaps of a sexy, virile, manly Scotsman? O my!

WHY YES, IT IS!

ANIMATED!BENTON WAS QUITE ADORABLE. :D

*feels the urge to quote Daft Punk once again*

QUOTE, QUOTE! :D

The first time I watched Robot I went OMG PROFESSOR WATKINS! And then I spent the entire serial giggling at his hair.

I think I saw Robot before I saw The Invasion, but O, HOW I LAUGH IN RETROSPECT. XD

That line (and especially the way he says it) fills me with glee.

O, me too! It's such a great little moment. ^_^ I actually listened to it twice; I loved it that much. :D

*sporfle* Ever since I first listened to this serial's commentaries I cannot hear the word "canoe" without suffering from a giggling fit.

I didn't get a chance last night to have a second listen with the commentary, but I LOVE listening to the commentary, so I will later today! :D

It depends on how the conversion is done, I think. I suppose most of the time they'll go for the brain first, but in cases like Toberman the Cyber-influence on the brain was weak (just enough to make him loyal until a more thorough operation could be done on him) and was quickly neutralized, while with Vaughn and Packer the deal seems to have been to leave the brains alone and work just on the rest.

Hmm - that sounds like a solid idea of how partial conversion could be achieved. I suppose they wouldn't have used any neural dampening fluid in that case - in the Cyberman audios, that will basically make someone already under Cyberman influence COMPLETELY Cybernetic, but not physically. On regular humans, it sort of makes them very docile & relaxed - almost comatose, you could say. The fluid, when used on an already-controlled human, takes away all emotion & everything that makes one human. Sort of liquid conversion, in a way.

(wait . . . was Packer all Cybernetic too? I suddenly feel disappointed. :O)

Personally, I doubt he ever had one.

Fair assessment. Though I'm more inclined to question his sanity before he met the Cybermen. Humph.

That is one truly iconic moment.

TOTALLY! Which is why it needs to be .gif-ed by someone one day! :D
Edited Date: 2009-08-01 01:48 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-08-01 01:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nentari.livejournal.com
O, goodness me! Do I wish to ask? Of course I do. :P
Well, from that moment on I've been wondering if Chancellor Goth was in any way responsible for the birth of the Krillitanes. *hides*

Hmm - in anything I've seen about this, I've never seen that mentioned ANYWHERE - & I've gone through all but two extras on my copy.
I don't think they never mention it on any of the extras, but it's in the Television Companion.

Hmm, interesting! But I assume nothing was fussed over for this serial?
At least I haven't found anything indicating it. *shrugs*

But no snaps of a sexy, virile, manly Scotsman? O my!
If it wasn't for her chatting up Jimmy Turner and taking snaps of Two and Zoe, one could almost say she had no taste.

QUOTE, QUOTE! :D
Okay, you asked for it:
Buy it, use it, break it, fix it
Trash it, change it, mail - upgrade it
Charge it, point it, zoom it, press it
Snap it, work it, quick - erase it

I didn't get a chance last night to have a second listen with the commentary, but I LOVE listening to the commentary, so I will later today! :D
Good on you! Myself, I'll be rewatching The Baddies. :D

(wait . . . was Packer all Cybernetic too? I suddenly feel disappointed. :O)
From the conversation he and Vaughn had at some point, it seems the two of them were given the same cybernetic alterations - which supports the theory that there's probably something going on between them.

TOTALLY! Which is why it needs to be .gif-ed by someone one day! :D
Oh yes. The best I could do was the still icon I'm using for this comment, which is not the same thing.

Date: 2009-08-02 09:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riverdresses.livejournal.com
Well, from that moment on I've been wondering if Chancellor Goth was in any way responsible for the birth of the Krillitanes. *hides*

Oooo . . . I'm torn between being all 'OMG!' & 'Ooo, kinky.' :D ::hides with you::

I don't think they never mention it on any of the extras, but it's in the Television Companion.

Hmm - I wonder if it's mentioned in the Wiki . . . ::goes to look::

If it wasn't for her chatting up Jimmy Turner and taking snaps of Two and Zoe, one could almost say she had no taste.

I would quite possibly agree if I didn't kind of ship Zoe/Isobel ahem with you there! WHO COULD PASS UP THE OPPORTUNITY FOR JAMIE SNAPS? :O

::IS DANCING TO YOUR QUOTAGE::
& O, I started working on reassembling my iTunes AGAIN tonight. First thing I did was stick all of your mixes back in order. :D PROGRESS! (& I WANTED THE ZOE MIX BACK DAMMIT.)

Good on you! Myself, I'll be rewatching The Baddies. :D

HEE! I'M about to rewatch The Baddies! (I finished listening to ALL the commentary & EEEE, ALL SO FAB! :D)

From the conversation he and Vaughn had at some point, it seems the two of them were given the same cybernetic alterations - which supports the theory that there's probably something going on between them.

Hmm . . . ::ponderponderponder:: This would not be too unlikely, I think. & I was totally quietly dropping various hints about those two through the whole recap - THERE TOTALLY WAS.

Oh yes. The best I could do was the still icon I'm using for this comment, which is not the same thing.

It will do! :D We just need to find someone with the know-how & such to MAKE it a .gif!

Date: 2009-08-02 10:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nentari.livejournal.com
Oooo . . . I'm torn between being all 'OMG!' & 'Ooo, kinky.' :D ::hides with you::
Chancellor Goth is a nasty piece of work (look at what he did to Two! And to Four!), so I wouldn't put it past him to create a new species out of sheer kinkiness. :P

Hmm - I wonder if it's mentioned in the Wiki . . . ::goes to look::
I don't think it is - at least, I don't remember seeing it there.

WHO COULD PASS UP THE OPPORTUNITY FOR JAMIE SNAPS? :O
EXACTLY! THAT'S INSANE!
I mean, look at his faces in my icon - he's a great model for interesting photos!

& O, I started working on reassembling my iTunes AGAIN tonight. First thing I did was stick all of your mixes back in order. :D
Ooh, I'm flattered. :D

& I was totally quietly dropping various hints about those two through the whole recap - THERE TOTALLY WAS.
Vaughn and Packer: totally doing it.

Date: 2009-08-02 12:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riverdresses.livejournal.com
Chancellor Goth is a nasty piece of work (look at what he did to Two! And to Four!), so I wouldn't put it past him to create a new species out of sheer kinkiness. :P

& now that you've reminded me of such . . . neither do I. ;)

I don't think it is - at least, I don't remember seeing it there.

O, fiddle. :( So much for thoroughness then!

EXACTLY! THAT'S INSANE!
I mean, look at his faces in my icon - he's a great model for interesting photos!


Jamie can certainly make some EPIC faces, can't he? Isobel really missed QUITE the opportunity!

Ooh, I'm flattered. :D

::snugs:: I ♥ your mixes! I wanted them all back!

Vaughn and Packer: totally doing it.

While everyone flails over Zoe & Isobel, we're the ones going 'hmmm . . . ' at Vaughn & Packer. WE'RE FAB LIKE THAT. :D

Date: 2009-08-02 12:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nentari.livejournal.com
& now that you've reminded me of such . . . neither do I. ;)
A friend of mine once joked that, if the Time Lord played by Bernard Horsfall in The War Games is Goth (which I deeply believe he is), then the two others have to be called Emo and Hardcore. *laughs* The one with the annoying voice who reappeared in The Three Doctors (he was the chancellor with the cringeworthy acting) has got to be Emo, which means the third one is Hardcore. :P

Jamie can certainly make some EPIC faces, can't he? Isobel really missed QUITE the opportunity!
Anything that boy ("boy!") does is EPIC, but his facial expressions top it all.

::snugs:: I ♥ your mixes! I wanted them all back!
Aww...
(Incidentally, a part of my brain is seriously considering using Stephen Lynch's If I Were Gay for the Eight/Fitz mix, but the other, more rational part feels that if will make the mix lose its sweetness and become a parody rather than a tribute; besides, I'm already using Loving is Easy to give it a naughty undertone.)

While everyone flails over Zoe & Isobel, we're the ones going 'hmmm . . . ' at Vaughn & Packer. WE'RE FAB LIKE THAT. :D
Well, to be honest I only started to see it after [livejournal.com profile] alouzon pointed it out to me - though now I cannot NOT see it. :P

Date: 2009-08-02 02:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riverdresses.livejournal.com
A friend of mine once joked that, if the Time Lord played by Bernard Horsfall in The War Games is Goth (which I deeply believe he is), then the two others have to be called Emo and Hardcore. *laughs* The one with the annoying voice who reappeared in The Three Doctors (he was the chancellor with the cringeworthy acting) has got to be Emo, which means the third one is Hardcore. :P

LOLZ! ::gigglesnorts:: I LOVE IT, I LOVE IT. & I DO remember that particular fellow rather well, for some reason - & I'll be seeing him soon, I think! :D

Anything that boy ("boy!") does is EPIC, but his facial expressions top it all.

O YES INDEED. ::snugs Jamie:: & I GET TO SEE THEM NEXT WEEK! :D

Your mixes are FAB GEAR for one's iPod. ::nods::

(& OMG - I can kind of TALK with you ABOUT your Eight/Fitz mix now! WHOA!)

Well, to be honest I only started to see it after [livejournal.com profile] alouzon pointed it out to me - though now I cannot NOT see it. :P

. . . I saw it about the third or fourth time I watched The Invasion. I, um . . . just never SAID it because EVERYONE would think I was VERY mad. Um. ::smiles kind of shyly::

Date: 2009-08-02 02:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nentari.livejournal.com
I DO remember that particular fellow rather well, for some reason - & I'll be seeing him soon, I think! :D
Yes, I'm sure you'll remember Chancellor Emo (*snerk*) well - that voice, for some reason, grates my nerves - and when the other Time Lord suggests calling Two and he utters "You can't!" he does it in such a badly-performed, over-the-top way that I burst out laughing every time. :P

& I GET TO SEE THEM NEXT WEEK! :D
YES! YES, YOU DO!

(& OMG - I can kind of TALK with you ABOUT your Eight/Fitz mix now! WHOA!)
Hee, I guess you can. :D

Incidentally, have you heard If I Were Gay? I'm definitely not going to use it for the mix, but it is SO easy to think of Eight and Fitz when I listen to it. And because it's just a male voice and an acoustic guitar, you can easily imagine it's Fitz singing it. :P
Here are the lyrics, in case you don't know the song:

Here we are
Dear old friend
You and I drunk again
Laughs have been had
Tears have been shed
Maybe the whisky has gone to my head

But if I were gay
I would give you my heart
And if I were gay
You'd be my work of art
And if I were gay
We would swim in romance
But I'm not gay
So get your hand out of my pants

It's not that I don't care
I do
I just don't see myself in you
Another time, another scene
I'd be right behind you if you know what I mean

'coz if I were gay
I would give you my soul
And if I were gay
I would give you my whole being
And if I were gay
We would tear down the walls
But I'm not gay
So won't you stop cupping my ba... hand


We've never hugged
We've never kissed
I've never been intimate with your fist
You have opened brand new doors
Get over here and drop ... your ... drawers

I, um . . . just never SAID it because EVERYONE would think I was VERY mad. Um. ::smiles kind of shyly::
That's okay - now you know they won't. :D

Date: 2009-08-03 09:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riverdresses.livejournal.com
Yes, I'm sure you'll remember Chancellor Emo (*snerk*) well - that voice, for some reason, grates my nerves - and when the other Time Lord suggests calling Two and he utters "You can't!" he does it in such a badly-performed, over-the-top way that I burst out laughing every time. :P

YES! THAT IS JUST HOW I REMEMBERED HIM! ::gigglesnorts:: I always felt a bit bad for laughing at what's a SERIOUS MOMENT, but o, it's v. funny! & now 'YOU CAAAAAN'T!' is totally stuck in my head. :P

YES! YES, YOU DO!

& ON DVD, NO LESS! ::SQUEALS:: JAMIE'S LACES IN DVD-QUALITY! :D (goodness, sounds like he has a corset on when I put it like that . . . )

Incidentally, have you heard If I Were Gay? I'm definitely not going to use it for the mix, but it is SO easy to think of Eight and Fitz when I listen to it. And because it's just a male voice and an acoustic guitar, you can easily imagine it's Fitz singing it. :P

You know, I don't think I ever HAVE, but OMG, I SHOULD. ::grins:: & like your Eight/Fitz mix, that would work remarkably well for my Withnail/Marwood mix, but it'd make it seem too silly when it's supposed to be a proper, serious one.

That's okay - now you know they won't. :D

They're the unsung ship of The Invasion - & EVERYBODY'S SHIPPY IN THAT! :P

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Date: 2009-08-02 05:27 am (UTC)
mysticalchild_isis: (dr who 2 & jamie)
From: [personal profile] mysticalchild_isis
I really liked "The Invasion"- and I was weirdly fond of the animated parts, too. Something about the look just really worked for me.

Date: 2009-08-02 10:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riverdresses.livejournal.com
Have you ever seen Scream of the Shalka? That's another Doctor Who story that Cosgrove Hall did, only Richard E. Grant was the Doctor & an alternate!Nine - it's got the same look as the animated bits of The Invasion, but IN COLOUR. :D & it's just a great story, I think.

Date: 2009-08-02 03:20 pm (UTC)
mysticalchild_isis: (dr who 3)
From: [personal profile] mysticalchild_isis
I actually, shamefully, have not yet seen Scream of the Shalka. It's definitely on my list, as I love REG. I've seen a few pics of the animation, and it looks great.

Date: 2009-08-03 08:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riverdresses.livejournal.com
It's absolutely awesome - animation & all. :D & our Alt!Nine is SO VERY Withnail-esque that it's a bit scary. :P ::points to icon::

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