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So this week's serial set . . . it's kind of series of endings & beginnings. We have Victoria's final serial (which I cried a bit during), Zoe's first adventure with Two & Jamie, & her post-War Games Companion Chronicle. This week was a bit depressing like that, but next week, it'll be much better, promise!
So, without further ado, let's begin with Fury From the Deep - the last serial for the lady Victoria Waterfield.
Fury From the Deep - audio
- Aww, Two, Jamie & Victoria in a boat! ::laughs:: Isn't that cute!
- LOLZ NOW THEY'RE PLAYING WITH FOAM! ::gigglesnorts:: How adorable! I can just see the three of them having a grand foam fight on the ocean!
- The image of Two, Jamie & Victoria on a beach is actually very cute. It would make a lovely picture, I think.
- HOLY SHIT THE FIRST APPEARANCE OF THE SONIC SCREWDRIVER!! Two made the sonic screwdriver what it is, bitches! DON'T YOU EVER FORGET!
- O GOD THEY JUST SHOT TWO! ::screams:: & JAMIE & VICTORIA! WHAT THE FUCK?!
- ::pets Two:: He doesn't sound very well, the poor love.
(& I'm giggling a bit at how cute Pat sounds just now. Hee!)
- Jamie's remark about always getting locked up makes me think of C'rizz saying 'What is it with the TARDIS and prisons lately?' in the audio Memory Lane.
- Harris seems a very gentle person, I think - almost apologetic for his superior's actions. He's quite kind, I would say.
- LOLZ, Victoria picks a lock with a hairpin & Jamie just falls out into a corridor! Victoria = T E H AWESOME.
- ::sighs heavily at Two for being so overprotective of Victoria::
- HA! But Victoria's not staying behind just because she's a 'mere girl' - she'll do her own exploring, thankyouverymuch!
- ACK, GAS-MASK WEARING CREATURES! ::dives under bed::
Are you my mummy?
- Miss Waterfield, who did teach you to pick locks like that? ::grins:: Or is that just been a secret you've been hiding from everyone until now?
- EEK, LIVING FOAM!
- O, the idea of Victoria's screaming just multiplying itself all over the refinery - that's a rather scary thought to me. I would be so afraid of never being found, if my screaming kept echoing like that.
- ::hugs Victoria tightly::
- Living, breathing, possibly killer foam . . . this is getting rather creepy now.
- Okay, getting slight shivers down my spine at the idea of people who are part people, part seaweed.
- I have to say, even though this was meant to be a serial, it works really well with just the audio, at least from my point of view. I don't know how terrifying it would be if I were watching it, or a recon of it, but as an audio, it's pretty spooky in places. Actual chills up & down my spine & all over my arms.
& I know that this recap must seem very quiet & subdued for a serial-audio I've described as 'spooky', but I'm listening to it with a great deal of trepidation & discomfort, because I know part of how this will end. & I don't like it at all.
- & the seaweed-people can turn others into seaweed-people? Hmmm.
- O, Victoria's showing her science skills! ::squeals:: & for that matter, so is Jamie! I ♥ it.
- For some reason, I'm highly amused as Two being described as an 'old man' & Jamie & Victoria as 'teenagers'. I actually never think of Two as old at all - I actually really don't.
- O goodness! IT'S VERY MUCH ALIVE! ::hides::
- Some of the music in this serial sounds a lot like the Jaws theme - just more electronic & technologically-minded. Which makes this serial-audio even more freaky - that music is pretty chilling on its own.
- JESUS WHAT IS WITH ALL THE BLOODY FOAM?! I'll never be able to take a bubble bath comfortably again.
- Poor Jamie. He nearly died from that gas, the poor love.
- O. O my. The ending is already starting. & I've already got a terrible knot in my stomach from it.
- Hmm. Jamie & Victoria are sharing a room. No, just saying 'hmm.'
(& guh, Jamie also has THE VOICE. brb, having the heart flutters.)
- I know, I should be saying something about Victoria. I know. But I can't. This - hearing how unhappy she is, is just breaking my heart. Her unhappiness makes me feel sick inside - she's so scared & she just wants to not be in danger constantly, or to be afraid all the time. I . . . I can sympathise with her, to a very tiny extent. & maybe that's part of why I can't say anything about her misery.
This serial, for a six-parter, feels like its going by so fast. It barely feels like a six-parter. & every moment, that knot gets bigger & bigger. I don't want this to end. It's become such that I barely notice what's happening in everything else; all I can notice & feel is how truly upset Victoria is.
- 'Victoria! Victoria . . . say something. No . . . no, you can't be dead. Victoria . . . if anything happened to you I'd never forgive myself.'
That? That was the sound of my heart literally snapping in two. Snapping in two, three, four, five - Jamie, stop it! ::bursts into tears:: You love her, & she can't take any of this life anymore & you still love her & it's BREAKING MY HEART.
I can't take very much more of this, I think. Victoria's breaking my heart, Jamie being so in love with her is killing me - fucksocks, the only person IN this damn story who hasn't broken me down yet is Two!
- Jamie & Victoria are splitting my heart right down the middle. I want this to end & I don't want it to end.
- JAMIE! That - JAMIE, GET AWAY FROM HIM! ::breathes:: O, you're alright, m'dear, you're alright.
- For someone who doesn't seem to do very well on flying machines, save for the TARDIS, Jamie certainly flies in a fair few of them!
- Okay, shallow moment: Jamie getting out of a helicopter = ALL THE MORE REASON WHY THIS SERIAL SHOULD HAVE SURVIVED, SRSLY, MAN.
- The one time it's good to know how to scream - when you're dealing with seaweed monsters! Victoria's screaming weakened Robson! ::waves her pompoms happily::
- HOLY CHRIST TWO 'S FLYING A HELICOPTER NOW?! I'm not sure if I should laugh or be in an extreme state of panic for Jamie & Victoria!
- O, Two. Helicopters aren't that easy you know! They aren't like a TARDIS!
- CHRIST! Two, freakin' FLY THE DAMN THING! Yes, now panicking for Jamie & Victoria. & o, poor Jamie - he's got to be freaking the fuck out now. He doesn't do well on these things as it is & now he's in one being piloted by a complete madman who has no idea how to fly or land! ::flails in a panicked way::
- WHOA. Well, he managed to land the helicopter, at least! & hopefully everyone's in one piece!
- Hee - now everyone wants Victoria to scream & she thinks it's silly! Victoria, it's NOT silly to scream at this moment, I promise!
- & miss Waterfield - & her screams - saved the day, didn't they? THAT could give a whole new meaning to being called a 'screamer', couldn't it?
- The way Two is so truly accepting of Victoria's wish to leave . . . it's very beautiful, but yes, deeply heartbreaking. Not his response to it - but her choice to leave. & Jamie not wanting to accept it - disintegrates just what's left of my heart.
- GODDAMMIT, JUST SAY IT, JAMIE. JUST TELL HER YOU LOVE HER, PLEASE! JUST SAY IT! Please, don't just dance around it - you love her. Say it.
- 'Jamie.'
'Yes?'
'You wouldn't go . . . without saying goodbye, would you?'
'Of course not. But that won't be til the morning anyway. Goodnight, Victoria.'
'Goodnight, Jamie.'
. . . . I know what I want to do with that. I finally do, despite the sadness & complete death of my heart during that final moment between the two of them.
- & even Victoria cries when she says goodbye to her friends for the final time.
& Jamie. He is just so heartbroken. He loved her, & if he could, he might have pleaded with her to stay. But he let her go, which . . . o, I can't even say it. It's too painful.
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Before I go into my heartbroken babble, I will say that this was a pretty good final story for Victoria. She was still as brave & amazing as always, despite her clear wishes to be done with the life she led with the Doctor & Jamie. & like I said before, this actually did make for a good audio, even though it's meant to be a serial. It still had power, despite it's total burnination! FTW.
& o, Victoria. She came home to her land of hope & gloria, a century & two years after she was forcibly taken from it. She saved the universe hundreds of times over, learnt her own limits & her own strength & bravery. I don't doubt that Victoria would have been happy in her new life, but I know it was a hard choice for her to make. But she made it, & never once hid her tears or her emotions about it.
land of hope and gloria, land of my Victoria . . .
Now, as we're about to enter into Zoe's era of Two's travels, I think it's as good a time to mention that when I get to The War Games, it will have its own separate post - it's ten serials long & I will not jam it all into a post with two other serials. It's a significant enough story to merit its own post & that's what I'll do with it.
Afterwards, I'll be recapping the two 'bonus' stories for the rewatch-athon - Spearhead in Space, which will bridge the gap between the end of Two's era & the beginning of Three's, & The Curse of Peladon, which had Patrick's son David as one of the main characters. Then we'll be back to the main stories for the rest of the rewatch-athon with The Three Doctors, The Five Doctors, The Two Doctors, Jamie's own Companion Chronicle Helicon Prime & the new series episode Midnight, which featured David Troughton as one of the leads!
(note: if I've worked out the serial order correctly, we'll have all three Pertwee-era stories done in a week.)
The Wheel in Space - audio & serial
Audio - episodes one through two
- Squeal! This one's being narrated by Wendy Padbury! ::bounces::
- Okay, the opening isn't making me feel any better about missing our Victoria.
- Um, uh-oh - FUCKERY! You manage to blow the fluid links TWICE, Two! But Two & Jamie run away together ARM & ARM!
- . . . Two pulled a One & made the TARDIS its actual size on the inside?
- Aww, he gave Jamie a lemon sherbet so he wouldn't be thirsty. ♥
- So . . . where are we? Rocket? Space station? Hmm.
- ::giggles at Jamie's incomprehensibility of Two & his technobabble::
- Okay, the Doctor seems to blow the TARDIS's fluid links a lot - or rather, he fucks them up a few times - he loses them in The Daleks, blows them here & also has difficulty with them in The Mind Robber - this can be useful, possibly.
- Jamie likes roast beef with all the trimmings - just like my girl Charley Pollard does!! ::high-fives Jamie:: & he likes fruit salad! Aww, Jamie. The boy certainly knows how to eat!
- Now they're discussing Victoria . . . he really misses her.
- Also, I think this is the first time that Two & Jamie have been on their own since the beginning of The Evil of the Daleks, which I find a bit sad, in a way. Not that they're alone together, but that it's only with Victoria's departure & entrance into the TARDIS can they ever be alone. I don't know - it's jut something that pulls at my mind a bit.
- Hmm - he opens a door without the sonic screwdriver this time. I suppose that at the time, the sonic screwdriver wasn't meant to be as . . . well, as all-powerful as it's become over the years. But that shows my own reliance & expectations of the Doctor's sonic screwdriver - I did somewhat expect him to use it to open the door.
- O, Jamie. ::draws a little heart:: He's keeping a close eye on Two - just like Two would have done for him.
- WAIT, WAIT! DON'T BLOW UP THE ROCKET! Doesn't anybody send search parties out to those things anymore?!
- AGH! ::sighs loudly & tosses her hair back in annoyance:: Could we NOT be blowing up things without inspecting them first, PLEASE?
- Aww. Jamie's trying to signal for help, but . . . well, no soap. I don't think it's meant to work like that, love . . .
- ::pushes a bit of hair away from Two's forehead:: O, poor Two. I'm a fair bit worried for him as well!
- WAIT A MINUTE, HOLD THE PHONE AND REWIND - JAMIE'S GOT HIS SHIRT OFF. Or at least unbuttoned . . . o, yesplz. & THEY BURNT THIS?! ::cries hard::
- Two's got a concussion - okay. Luckily, not a serious one. ::snuggles her favourite space beatnik::
- 'What about the medical? Do I pass?'
'You'll do. If it's any comfort to you, you're in fine physical shape.'
SAYS THE WOMAN WHO GOT HIS SHIRT OFF. I'm a child & just giggled a bit at that. He is in fine physical shape, I would say.
- Parapsychology! ::thumbs up::
- Hee - Zoe as a librarian - not what I'd describe her as, myself!
- LOLZ, I love Jamie's way of finding the parapsychology library. ::pets him::
- OMG SHE'S LAUGHING AT JAMIE'S KILT! & CALLING IT A SKIRT! & he threatens to give her a good smacking for itget in line, Jamie, love, I've got first claim there! - not sure who's the lucky one in that particular situation, Zoe or Jamie. ::giggles::
- Zoe's brain just boggles me. Even though in linguistic & in most literary matters, I can sound almost exactly like her. I do try not to, however. ::shy smile::
- & I do believe a certain metallic sort of race has just made its first appearance for this serial . . .
The Wheel in Space - episode three
- Moving into the first of the only two surviving parts of the story & I can't even begin to say how much I've missed being able to watch an episode properly.
- Hello there Jamie! Pretty outfit you have on - & you just got caught spraying quick-set plastic on some important equipment!
- FUCKERY, IT IS INDEED THE CYBERMEN. ::loves on them:: Oooo - their voices are a bit different from when I last heard them back in Tomb of the Cybermen.
- CYBERMATS! No, no, I wouldn't advise touching them, really, I wouldn't . . . ::sigh::
- ::giggle:: Aww, little marital bickerbickerbicker moment. (I think you could do a drinking game with how many bickerbickerbicker moments Two & Jamie have, really, you could) & yay, Two's up & about again! Well, okay, maybe not up & about, but at least he's conscious!
Umf, Pat, how on EARTH can you be so sexy when you're not even really DOING anything? I WANT TO KNOW.
- I haven't mentioned it yet, but Tanya's very pretty. She looks a little like Isobel from The Invasion, I think.
- I love how Zoe just shrugs off more or less being insulted & being called heartless. I wish I could do that. But I guess I'm not enough of a proper little brainchild.
- Hey, seriously, get away from the Cybermat. That's not a suggestion, that's an ORDER.
- O MY WORD, WE HAVE A SECOND DOCTOR WITH AN UNDONE SHIRT IN THE MEDICAL ROOM.DAMN YOU MONOCHROME SHOWS, I WANT THIS IN COLOUR! Hmm. Well, if they had to burn Jamie's physical, at least they saved Two's, more or less. THEY SHOULD HAVE SAVED BOTH GODDAMMIT! & Pat? STOP BEING SO SEXY WHEN YOU'RE DOING TOTALLY NOTHING BUT SITTING THERE! You're making this girl a bit crazy!
Ooo, now he's buttoning back up - still sexy, people!
(& yes I may have rewound that whole part just to watch it a second time. ::fans self::)
- HEE! Jamie & Zoe's big brother-little sister relationship is already starting up!
- 'Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority.'
Two > Zoe. & I love that gal!
- Something else about the Cybermen in this serial - they look considerably different than they did the last time I saw them in The Tomb of the Cybermen - it's the eyes, I think. Smaller. The face overall is much smaller & more different - & it's a bit more discomforting to see, honestly.
- AAAAAAND the Cybermats begin to attack. BUT WAIT! The quick-set plastic Jamie used is still handy! But no, that doesn't save anyone from a Cybermat attack.
- Two: is continuing to pwn Zoe. & I DO love this girl, I love her madly, but Two >>>>>> Zoe for now. ::grins::
- 'Simple common sense works wonders, sometimes, Zoe.'
::Zoe looks at Jamie::
'Well at least you didn't think of x-rays. That'd have been awful.'
LOLZ! Aww, my lovely Zoe-girl.
- Am I the only one who thinks that Tanya looks a little like Catherine Deneuve? Polly also looked a bit like her too, at least from Catherine's film Repulsion. (great film, by the way, everyone who likes suspense & slightly scary films should see it.) But she sort of does - a space-age Catherine Deneuve, perhaps. ::grins::
Audio - episodes four through five
- Moving back into audio for the middle half . . . the Cybermen have found a way into the wheel. By way of controlling the crew members sent to investigate the rocket.
- & now, Two's being awesome & giving us a history of the Cybermen. Thankyou, Doctor! ::beams:: Needed that lesson, actually.
- Space sickness . . . o, a form of space dementia! [/Zoe voice] As a sidebar, there are many forms of space dementia, you know; it isn't always a case of madness due to prolonged living in outer space. It takes at least four different forms, both benevolent & malevolent.
- Hmm . . . is it not possible that part of . . . whatever that component for the laser that Two speaks of contains some form of radiation? That's the only idea I have - Cybermen are adverse to radiation, so if they plan on taking over the wheel, & if there's any onboard, that would have to be the first thing to go before they arrived.
- Aww, Jamie's learning about the technology of analogue recording - or rather, the concept of tape recorders! ::laughs:: His confusion is so cute.
- It may be a useless & pointless observation to make, but Cybermen have clearly no sense of honour - killing a man by shooting him in the back. How cowardly. Useless an observation as it is, it's still true & it still disgusts me. ::glares::
- O, Zoe. Her sadness - & that's what it is - about not being able to feel, & her worry that she'll never be able to feel anything says a lot about her, I think. When I listened to that (I'm replaying that bit now), I immediately likened her to a Cyberman, because people think of her as having no emotion, or being able to feel, even though, from what she says to Gemma, she can. In a way, Zoe is a bit like a Cyberman when we first meet her - not physically, or in her ideology, but in her almost emotionally dead state. But at the same time, she seems to, to take my Zoe-being-a-bit-like-a-Cyberman analogy a little further, if I may, be rebelling against her training.
She reminds me a bit of Kroton, actually. To quickly & I do mean quickly, explain who Kroton is, he's a Cyberman who became a companion to the Eighth Doctor & his companion Izzy Sinclair in Eight's comic stories. He retained his emotions & ability to feel after being converted & wound up saving both Eight & Izzy from space pirates, even after Eight almost killed him. He was basically a good, kind, friend of a Cyberman. & Zoe, in her desire to feel & to have emotions, reminds me a bit of Kroton.
& considering how Zoe was raised, & what she was raised to be, it seems very fitting that her introduction story should involve Cybermen.
(now I'm even realising how Victoria's first official serial as a companion involved Cybermen & Zoe's debut serial involves them as well. Probably just a coincidence, but it's another thing to tug at my mind for a while.)
- ::shudders:: The Cybermen have managed to disable the wheel's communication systems & have already killed twice. This is really, really not a good thing.
- 'I was trained to believe logic and calculation would provide me with all the answers. Well, I'm just beginning to realise there are questions which I can't answer.'
'You're just not trained for an emergency like this.'
'Well, that's the whole point - what good am I? I've been created for some false kind of existence, where only known kinds of emergencies are catered for. Well, what good is that to me now?'
'Hey. We're not done yet, you know.'
'And if we survive? What then, Jamie? Suppose we do get ourselves out of this mess. What have I got left? A blind reliance on facts and logic.'
I love her. ::hugs Zoe::
(I think Zoe is a lot like River Tam in this way - an absolute genius, or rather, what River could have been, if it were not for her madness & her brain having been picked apart by hands that should not have played with human physiology like that. But Zoe, I think, is just as much the prodigy that River is, but with all of her brain & more. What was taken from River, Zoe has, & what River is left with, Zoe had removed. But, like River learnt to pull herself together when she needed to, when people truly needed her, Zoe's learning that she can feel & that she can be a real girl with a real heart. Or at least, something to that effect - this is still a concept & an idea that I need to work out more fully in my head)
- So the Cybermen caused the explosion of the star as part of the way to get into the wheel? They can do that? Blow stars up?
- ::clings to poor, scared Jamie:: Even in the middle of a Cyberman invasion, they STILL have adorable moments of bickerbickerbicker! But still, I'm going to worry for him likewhoa.
- GEMMA! NO! They just shot her down - in cold blood! (if the Cybermen HAD blood, mind you - it would be cold as ice.)
The Wheel in Space - episode six
- For the final instalment, we'll be going back to the only other surviving part of this serial & several VERY ugly meteorites are headed right for Jamie & Zoe! However, the wheel's been able to blast them away from Jamie & Zoe.
- 'But anyway, we're all going to be killed shortly unless you switch over to sexual air supply!'
Yeah. I'm twelve. So what? I didn't even BOTHER to cross that out because THAT IS JUST WHAT HE SAYS. & no, I never fail to crack up at that bit. SO? It's a CLASSIC bit of the Troughton era & I refuse to recap this episode without mentioning it.
Switching over to sexual air supply could be fun anyway. I'd not mind sharing it with Two. ::wiggles toes::
- O FUCK MAN, WATCHING A CYBERMAN THROW A HUMAN AROUND LIKE THAT IS FUCKING SCARY.
- Aww, Jamie & Zoe's first adventure together. & they're so very brother & sister already. I love it.
- You know, I think the relationship between Tanya & Leo is really cute. It's so obvious how much they care for each other, but it never gets in the way of the main story. It's lovely.
- Now I'm going to be really, really shallow for a moment (o, what, like I wasn't earlier?) & just say that Zoe? Has a very nice backside, even without the glitter to adorn it! Seriously. Couldn't help but sneak a glance or two when she was out of her spacesuit.
-UMF TWO. ::tackles him to the floor:: Two's so cute when he looks a bit scared - almost like a little rabbit. & I ♥ how he plays for time when the Cybermen are right in front of him. TWO >>>>>>>>>>>>>> EVERYTHING. (except Jamie. But Jamie's totally in a class by himself, so there. ::grins::)
- The shot of all those ghostly looking Cybermen is pretty chilly. ::shivers:: & the way they can just walk out in space totally unfettered is even more scary. I'd like to see a Cybus!Cyberman try & top that!
- Jamie in his space suit is both cute & giggle-worthy. It looks like he's preparing to do some serious extreme sporting in it.
- 'Well, look, Zoe - we won't forget you.'
::sniffles & slaps Jamie for that::
- ::grins:: Miss Zoe Heriot - you just sneaked onboard the TARDIS! For that, I salute you. ♥
- Two, why are you wearing Sailor Mars' tiara? Take that off, you silly silly man! ::giggles::
- & he shows Zoe a Dalek. A Dalek doing what it does best - killing someone. (in Victoria's first serial, no less.) But I have a feeling she'll still want to stay on. 'cause she's awesome like that.
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I may be a bit biased, because Zoe was the first Two-era companion I ever met, but I have to say, her introduction serial is a really good one. Of course, with Cybermen, Two & Jamie being awesome on their own & Zoe being pretty damn fab herself all makes for a great serial! & of course, this serial has lots of little bits in it that I positively & randomly adore & one of the best little LOLZ-worthy dialogue bits of the Troughton era which I have never recovered from since I first heard it, thankyouverymuch. Basically, it's just a great serial! What more's a girl gotta say?
& I have to say, I really love Wendy Padbury's narration of the story - I wish I could have heard her do more narration of her lost stories!
(O, one more thing . . . after viewing this serial, or rather, listening to it & watching it in its entirety, I . . . could actually ship Zoe with Two. No, really, I could. In fact, I think he's the only person I could ship her with & not have the O____o kind of face. If it's Jamie/Zoe, I'm like HELL NO, CAN'T READ IT, PLZ GET IT AWAY FROM MY PERSON THANKS, but Two/Zoe . . . I could give it a try. If it's good, of course! But I don't know . . . he's the only one I could see her actually having a romantic sort of relationship with, really. Jamie's too much like her big brother for me to be able to ship them, you see.)
& our final story for the week, Zoe Heriot's own Companion Chronicle, Fear of the Daleks.
Fear of the Daleks
- CHRIST, DALEKS! Okay, THAT was a good way to freak me the fuck out as soon as I started this audio!
- I think the beginning of Zoe's story is just beautiful. It's sad, yes, but also very beautifully said at the same time.
- Already, this audio makes me terribly sad. It makes me sad because it makes me feel like I'm looking long into the future after The War Games & how clearly the Time Lords fucked up her memory erasing. & I know I'm not ready to see that yet.
- A domed, habituated asteroid? I immediately thought of The Jetsons when Zoe said that. Actually, that's sort of what I keep seeing when she describes the city.
- Cinnamon fish! ::laughs::
- The Doctor had not heard of either race and that surprised me. 'I thought you knew everything.'
He was practical in his humility. 'If I knew everything, Zoe, what would be left to discover?'
- Two's calm = amazingly awesome. ♥♥
- 'Why thank you - probably!'
::gigglesnorts::
- Um, Two's panic over the possibility of the Daleks still being - or being - around gives me total chills.
- Why - why does anyone want to try to form an alliance with Daleks? Daleks . . . they're no better than ninety-nine point nine percent of Cybermen - they want to kill & destroy. They don't make deals!
- BACK THIS THE FUCK UP - they want to make Zoe an assassin?
THEY WANT TO MAKE ZOE AN ASSASSIN?
. . . . that is exactly, for those of you who don't know (though I think most of you will), what was attempted to be done on River Tam - but the process of stripping her brain down in places left her a raving lunatic - with psychic abilities & an assassin's training. Zoe's not psychic, but her brain, or at least, what's been done to it, seems to be a less damaging form of what was done to River's. (but I don't think Zoe's brain was operated on.)
- A codeword to activate Zoe as an assassin?
That's what they did to River - how they drew her out in Serenity - but with subliminal messages, as opposed to a codeword. When she saw them, she went on a killing spree, more or less.
- I'm not surprised that the scientific aspects of this fascinate Zoe - it fascinates me as well, though I'm not nearly as well-versed in scientific matters as she is.
- 'Speaking of sartorial lapses - be quiet, skirt boy!'
'I'll give you skirt boy!'
O no. You don't go about calling Jamie's kilt a skirt & expect to live! That's like throwing rocks at Leela & expecting not to get shanked.
- The way they've taken over Zoe's mind - it's making me think so much of River & what they did to her brain. It's frightening & rather upsetting at once.
- O, Zoe.
- O goddammit . . . Daleks. O my word . . . they're coming for the Doctor!
- 'Stowaway', I sighed. Not again.
- This story . . . it makes me terribly sad, but keeps me fascinated at the same time. It just makes me . . . well, very sad, because I keep thinking of River Tam & that this is what she could have become, if Simon had not intervened & saved her life. But Zoe . . . she's being controlled, & the Doctor & Jamie can't help her.
- O MY WORD! The Daleks . . . they've arrived in the laboratory.
- NO, NO, YOU CAN'T EXTERMINATE HIM!
- O, Two. ::breathes heavily:: You're insanely fast-thinking! & HA! I don't blame him for being pissed off by having his brain called 'acceptable' - YOU SILLY METAL PEPPERPOTS, THE DOCTOR'S BRAIN IS BETTER THAN YOURS ON HIS WORST DAY!
- 'INSOLENCE INVITES EXTERMINATION.'
Okay, not even going to lie - I actually made some kind of verbal wibble-noise when I heard that. That truly scared me, okay? It sounded frighteningly like something from The Natural History of Fear audio & that audio scares the living hell out of me.
- ::clings to Two:: Why are you so brave, Doctor? ::sniffle:: (& how can I be so brave?!)
- ::headdesks:: Seriously - anyone dumb enough to try & make deals, bargains or alliances with Daleks or Cybermen? Just get yourself exterminated or killed - FAST! You're polluting your species' gene pool, you know.
- ::clings to Two even harder:: ItotallykindoflovehimbutI'mtotallyfreakingoutforhim.
- BLOW THAT - THE DOCTOR'S MIND IS BETTER & STRONGER THAN ANY OF YOURS!
- O . . . Zoe, Zoe, Zoe. ::cries::
- O, TWO! ::collapses:: He's got her, & he can protect her now.
- NO! YOU LAY ANY OF YOUR HANDS ON JAMIE & TWO WILL LET THE DALEKS KILL YOU.
- Daleks can't be bargained with, you fools. Not now, not then, not ever. IT WOULD DO THE UNIVERSE WELL TO LEARN SUCH A LESSON.
- O god . . . being inside the mind of a Dalek . . . I can't imagine anything more horrifying to experience, psychically. Reavers & Daleks . . . their minds are the most frightening places a psychic could be. If you could even look inside one without going completely insane on the spot.
- A Dalek asking for the Doctor to exterminate them . . . & his refusal. His refusal to exterminate the Daleks. It's almost like Four in Genesis of the Daleks - how he refuses to destroy the Dalek embryos because it would make him no better than the Daleks, & Sarah Jane insisting that he do it . . . just what Zoe does, but Sarah Jane wasn't holding the wires.
- ::breathes slowly:: Jamie saved their lives. Jamie, Jamie, Jamie . . . ♥♥♥ Which makes this audio even more heart-wrenching to hear.
- & Zoe after telling her story . . . she can remember. Just a little, can't she? It's so small - but it can give one hope that maybe the Time Lords weren't as thorough at memory wiping as one might think.
(&nentari, I tried not to, but I wound up thinking something a little similar like what you mentioned in the end. Different form, though.)
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That was definitely a great entry in the Companion Chronicles, I think. It was sad & beautiful & a little hopeful in the end - & of course, quite a thrilling adventure in itself! & there were even moments where I had to try really hard not to cry. It also had shades of Firefly & Serenity to it, I think, which is even more wonderful, though it was those that made me sad.
& the ending . . . it gave me hope for Zoe, that maybe she can remember. Just like the ending of Serenity always gives me hope that River can take care of herself, & begin to mend over time. The only differences between the two are that Zoe's ending is still very heartbreaking, while River's isn't, so much.
Also, I loved hearing Wendy Padbury's narration again! I hope Zoe gets a second story - I know Jamie's second one is coming out in August (!!!), so maybe there's hope for a second story for Zoe?
::fireworks pop off:: Those are our serial recaps for the week! Next week I'll be covering The Dominators, The Mind Robber (which was my first Two-era serial ever, so that'll be a fun exercise in nostalgia for me!) & my second favourite serial of the Troughton era, The Invasion. Plus, I'll be getting back to watching things, as opposed to listening to them again! Which is, of course, the most fun in doing a rewatch-athon. ::beams::
Previous recaps
The Dalek Invasion of Earth
The Time Meddler
The War Machines
The Smugglers
The Tenth Planet
The Power of the Daleks
The Highlanders
The Underwater Menace
The Moonbase
The Macra Terror
The Faceless Ones
The Evil of the Daleks
The Evil of the Daleks - audio version
Tomb of the Cybermen
The Great Space Elevator (Victoria's Companion Chronicle)
The Abominable Snowmen - audio & serial
The Ice Warriors - audio
The Enemy of the World - audio & serial
The Web of Fear - audio & serial
wordsindreams showed me. THERE ARE PRACTICALLY NO WORDS TO DESCRIBE HOW DAMN BAD I THINK I WANT THAT SHIRT. I mean, even Sara Kingdom gets a mention! ::bounces:: IT'S AWESOME!
So this week's serial set . . . it's kind of series of endings & beginnings. We have Victoria's final serial (which I cried a bit during), Zoe's first adventure with Two & Jamie, & her post-War Games Companion Chronicle. This week was a bit depressing like that, but next week, it'll be much better, promise!
So, without further ado, let's begin with Fury From the Deep - the last serial for the lady Victoria Waterfield.
Fury From the Deep - audio
- Aww, Two, Jamie & Victoria in a boat! ::laughs:: Isn't that cute!
- LOLZ NOW THEY'RE PLAYING WITH FOAM! ::gigglesnorts:: How adorable! I can just see the three of them having a grand foam fight on the ocean!
- The image of Two, Jamie & Victoria on a beach is actually very cute. It would make a lovely picture, I think.
- HOLY SHIT THE FIRST APPEARANCE OF THE SONIC SCREWDRIVER!! Two made the sonic screwdriver what it is, bitches! DON'T YOU EVER FORGET!
- O GOD THEY JUST SHOT TWO! ::screams:: & JAMIE & VICTORIA! WHAT THE FUCK?!
- ::pets Two:: He doesn't sound very well, the poor love.
(& I'm giggling a bit at how cute Pat sounds just now. Hee!)
- Jamie's remark about always getting locked up makes me think of C'rizz saying 'What is it with the TARDIS and prisons lately?' in the audio Memory Lane.
- Harris seems a very gentle person, I think - almost apologetic for his superior's actions. He's quite kind, I would say.
- LOLZ, Victoria picks a lock with a hairpin & Jamie just falls out into a corridor! Victoria = T E H AWESOME.
- ::sighs heavily at Two for being so overprotective of Victoria::
- HA! But Victoria's not staying behind just because she's a 'mere girl' - she'll do her own exploring, thankyouverymuch!
- ACK, GAS-MASK WEARING CREATURES! ::dives under bed::
- Miss Waterfield, who did teach you to pick locks like that? ::grins:: Or is that just been a secret you've been hiding from everyone until now?
- EEK, LIVING FOAM!
- O, the idea of Victoria's screaming just multiplying itself all over the refinery - that's a rather scary thought to me. I would be so afraid of never being found, if my screaming kept echoing like that.
- ::hugs Victoria tightly::
- Living, breathing, possibly killer foam . . . this is getting rather creepy now.
- Okay, getting slight shivers down my spine at the idea of people who are part people, part seaweed.
- I have to say, even though this was meant to be a serial, it works really well with just the audio, at least from my point of view. I don't know how terrifying it would be if I were watching it, or a recon of it, but as an audio, it's pretty spooky in places. Actual chills up & down my spine & all over my arms.
& I know that this recap must seem very quiet & subdued for a serial-audio I've described as 'spooky', but I'm listening to it with a great deal of trepidation & discomfort, because I know part of how this will end. & I don't like it at all.
- & the seaweed-people can turn others into seaweed-people? Hmmm.
- O, Victoria's showing her science skills! ::squeals:: & for that matter, so is Jamie! I ♥ it.
- For some reason, I'm highly amused as Two being described as an 'old man' & Jamie & Victoria as 'teenagers'. I actually never think of Two as old at all - I actually really don't.
- O goodness! IT'S VERY MUCH ALIVE! ::hides::
- Some of the music in this serial sounds a lot like the Jaws theme - just more electronic & technologically-minded. Which makes this serial-audio even more freaky - that music is pretty chilling on its own.
- JESUS WHAT IS WITH ALL THE BLOODY FOAM?! I'll never be able to take a bubble bath comfortably again.
- Poor Jamie. He nearly died from that gas, the poor love.
- O. O my. The ending is already starting. & I've already got a terrible knot in my stomach from it.
- Hmm. Jamie & Victoria are sharing a room. No, just saying 'hmm.'
(& guh, Jamie also has THE VOICE. brb, having the heart flutters.)
- I know, I should be saying something about Victoria. I know. But I can't. This - hearing how unhappy she is, is just breaking my heart. Her unhappiness makes me feel sick inside - she's so scared & she just wants to not be in danger constantly, or to be afraid all the time. I . . . I can sympathise with her, to a very tiny extent. & maybe that's part of why I can't say anything about her misery.
This serial, for a six-parter, feels like its going by so fast. It barely feels like a six-parter. & every moment, that knot gets bigger & bigger. I don't want this to end. It's become such that I barely notice what's happening in everything else; all I can notice & feel is how truly upset Victoria is.
- 'Victoria! Victoria . . . say something. No . . . no, you can't be dead. Victoria . . . if anything happened to you I'd never forgive myself.'
That? That was the sound of my heart literally snapping in two. Snapping in two, three, four, five - Jamie, stop it! ::bursts into tears:: You love her, & she can't take any of this life anymore & you still love her & it's BREAKING MY HEART.
I can't take very much more of this, I think. Victoria's breaking my heart, Jamie being so in love with her is killing me - fucksocks, the only person IN this damn story who hasn't broken me down yet is Two!
- Jamie & Victoria are splitting my heart right down the middle. I want this to end & I don't want it to end.
- JAMIE! That - JAMIE, GET AWAY FROM HIM! ::breathes:: O, you're alright, m'dear, you're alright.
- For someone who doesn't seem to do very well on flying machines, save for the TARDIS, Jamie certainly flies in a fair few of them!
- Okay, shallow moment: Jamie getting out of a helicopter = ALL THE MORE REASON WHY THIS SERIAL SHOULD HAVE SURVIVED, SRSLY, MAN.
- The one time it's good to know how to scream - when you're dealing with seaweed monsters! Victoria's screaming weakened Robson! ::waves her pompoms happily::
- HOLY CHRIST TWO 'S FLYING A HELICOPTER NOW?! I'm not sure if I should laugh or be in an extreme state of panic for Jamie & Victoria!
- O, Two. Helicopters aren't that easy you know! They aren't like a TARDIS!
- CHRIST! Two, freakin' FLY THE DAMN THING! Yes, now panicking for Jamie & Victoria. & o, poor Jamie - he's got to be freaking the fuck out now. He doesn't do well on these things as it is & now he's in one being piloted by a complete madman who has no idea how to fly or land! ::flails in a panicked way::
- WHOA. Well, he managed to land the helicopter, at least! & hopefully everyone's in one piece!
- Hee - now everyone wants Victoria to scream & she thinks it's silly! Victoria, it's NOT silly to scream at this moment, I promise!
- & miss Waterfield - & her screams - saved the day, didn't they? THAT could give a whole new meaning to being called a 'screamer', couldn't it?
- The way Two is so truly accepting of Victoria's wish to leave . . . it's very beautiful, but yes, deeply heartbreaking. Not his response to it - but her choice to leave. & Jamie not wanting to accept it - disintegrates just what's left of my heart.
- GODDAMMIT, JUST SAY IT, JAMIE. JUST TELL HER YOU LOVE HER, PLEASE! JUST SAY IT! Please, don't just dance around it - you love her. Say it.
- 'Jamie.'
'Yes?'
'You wouldn't go . . . without saying goodbye, would you?'
'Of course not. But that won't be til the morning anyway. Goodnight, Victoria.'
'Goodnight, Jamie.'
. . . . I know what I want to do with that. I finally do, despite the sadness & complete death of my heart during that final moment between the two of them.
- & even Victoria cries when she says goodbye to her friends for the final time.
& Jamie. He is just so heartbroken. He loved her, & if he could, he might have pleaded with her to stay. But he let her go, which . . . o, I can't even say it. It's too painful.
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Before I go into my heartbroken babble, I will say that this was a pretty good final story for Victoria. She was still as brave & amazing as always, despite her clear wishes to be done with the life she led with the Doctor & Jamie. & like I said before, this actually did make for a good audio, even though it's meant to be a serial. It still had power, despite it's total burnination! FTW.
& o, Victoria. She came home to her land of hope & gloria, a century & two years after she was forcibly taken from it. She saved the universe hundreds of times over, learnt her own limits & her own strength & bravery. I don't doubt that Victoria would have been happy in her new life, but I know it was a hard choice for her to make. But she made it, & never once hid her tears or her emotions about it.
land of hope and gloria, land of my Victoria . . .
Now, as we're about to enter into Zoe's era of Two's travels, I think it's as good a time to mention that when I get to The War Games, it will have its own separate post - it's ten serials long & I will not jam it all into a post with two other serials. It's a significant enough story to merit its own post & that's what I'll do with it.
Afterwards, I'll be recapping the two 'bonus' stories for the rewatch-athon - Spearhead in Space, which will bridge the gap between the end of Two's era & the beginning of Three's, & The Curse of Peladon, which had Patrick's son David as one of the main characters. Then we'll be back to the main stories for the rest of the rewatch-athon with The Three Doctors, The Five Doctors, The Two Doctors, Jamie's own Companion Chronicle Helicon Prime & the new series episode Midnight, which featured David Troughton as one of the leads!
(note: if I've worked out the serial order correctly, we'll have all three Pertwee-era stories done in a week.)
The Wheel in Space - audio & serial
Audio - episodes one through two
- Squeal! This one's being narrated by Wendy Padbury! ::bounces::
- Okay, the opening isn't making me feel any better about missing our Victoria.
- Um, uh-oh - FUCKERY! You manage to blow the fluid links TWICE, Two! But Two & Jamie run away together ARM & ARM!
- . . . Two pulled a One & made the TARDIS its actual size on the inside?
- Aww, he gave Jamie a lemon sherbet so he wouldn't be thirsty. ♥
- So . . . where are we? Rocket? Space station? Hmm.
- ::giggles at Jamie's incomprehensibility of Two & his technobabble::
- Okay, the Doctor seems to blow the TARDIS's fluid links a lot - or rather, he fucks them up a few times - he loses them in The Daleks, blows them here & also has difficulty with them in The Mind Robber - this can be useful, possibly.
- Jamie likes roast beef with all the trimmings - just like my girl Charley Pollard does!! ::high-fives Jamie:: & he likes fruit salad! Aww, Jamie. The boy certainly knows how to eat!
- Now they're discussing Victoria . . . he really misses her.
- Also, I think this is the first time that Two & Jamie have been on their own since the beginning of The Evil of the Daleks, which I find a bit sad, in a way. Not that they're alone together, but that it's only with Victoria's departure & entrance into the TARDIS can they ever be alone. I don't know - it's jut something that pulls at my mind a bit.
- Hmm - he opens a door without the sonic screwdriver this time. I suppose that at the time, the sonic screwdriver wasn't meant to be as . . . well, as all-powerful as it's become over the years. But that shows my own reliance & expectations of the Doctor's sonic screwdriver - I did somewhat expect him to use it to open the door.
- O, Jamie. ::draws a little heart:: He's keeping a close eye on Two - just like Two would have done for him.
- WAIT, WAIT! DON'T BLOW UP THE ROCKET! Doesn't anybody send search parties out to those things anymore?!
- AGH! ::sighs loudly & tosses her hair back in annoyance:: Could we NOT be blowing up things without inspecting them first, PLEASE?
- Aww. Jamie's trying to signal for help, but . . . well, no soap. I don't think it's meant to work like that, love . . .
- ::pushes a bit of hair away from Two's forehead:: O, poor Two. I'm a fair bit worried for him as well!
- WAIT A MINUTE, HOLD THE PHONE AND REWIND - JAMIE'S GOT HIS SHIRT OFF. Or at least unbuttoned . . . o, yesplz. & THEY BURNT THIS?! ::cries hard::
- Two's got a concussion - okay. Luckily, not a serious one. ::snuggles her favourite space beatnik::
- 'What about the medical? Do I pass?'
'You'll do. If it's any comfort to you, you're in fine physical shape.'
- Parapsychology! ::thumbs up::
- Hee - Zoe as a librarian - not what I'd describe her as, myself!
- LOLZ, I love Jamie's way of finding the parapsychology library. ::pets him::
- OMG SHE'S LAUGHING AT JAMIE'S KILT! & CALLING IT A SKIRT! & he threatens to give her a good smacking for it
- Zoe's brain just boggles me. Even though in linguistic & in most literary matters, I can sound almost exactly like her. I do try not to, however. ::shy smile::
- & I do believe a certain metallic sort of race has just made its first appearance for this serial . . .
The Wheel in Space - episode three
- Moving into the first of the only two surviving parts of the story & I can't even begin to say how much I've missed being able to watch an episode properly.
- Hello there Jamie! Pretty outfit you have on - & you just got caught spraying quick-set plastic on some important equipment!
- FUCKERY, IT IS INDEED THE CYBERMEN. ::loves on them:: Oooo - their voices are a bit different from when I last heard them back in Tomb of the Cybermen.
- CYBERMATS! No, no, I wouldn't advise touching them, really, I wouldn't . . . ::sigh::
- ::giggle:: Aww, little marital bickerbickerbicker moment. (I think you could do a drinking game with how many bickerbickerbicker moments Two & Jamie have, really, you could) & yay, Two's up & about again! Well, okay, maybe not up & about, but at least he's conscious!
- I haven't mentioned it yet, but Tanya's very pretty. She looks a little like Isobel from The Invasion, I think.
- I love how Zoe just shrugs off more or less being insulted & being called heartless. I wish I could do that. But I guess I'm not enough of a proper little brainchild.
- Hey, seriously, get away from the Cybermat. That's not a suggestion, that's an ORDER.
- O MY WORD, WE HAVE A SECOND DOCTOR WITH AN UNDONE SHIRT IN THE MEDICAL ROOM.
Ooo, now he's buttoning back up - still sexy, people!
(& yes I may have rewound that whole part just to watch it a second time. ::fans self::)
- HEE! Jamie & Zoe's big brother-little sister relationship is already starting up!
- 'Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority.'
Two > Zoe. & I love that gal!
- Something else about the Cybermen in this serial - they look considerably different than they did the last time I saw them in The Tomb of the Cybermen - it's the eyes, I think. Smaller. The face overall is much smaller & more different - & it's a bit more discomforting to see, honestly.
- AAAAAAND the Cybermats begin to attack. BUT WAIT! The quick-set plastic Jamie used is still handy! But no, that doesn't save anyone from a Cybermat attack.
- Two: is continuing to pwn Zoe. & I DO love this girl, I love her madly, but Two >>>>>> Zoe for now. ::grins::
- 'Simple common sense works wonders, sometimes, Zoe.'
::Zoe looks at Jamie::
'Well at least you didn't think of x-rays. That'd have been awful.'
LOLZ! Aww, my lovely Zoe-girl.
- Am I the only one who thinks that Tanya looks a little like Catherine Deneuve? Polly also looked a bit like her too, at least from Catherine's film Repulsion. (great film, by the way, everyone who likes suspense & slightly scary films should see it.) But she sort of does - a space-age Catherine Deneuve, perhaps. ::grins::
Audio - episodes four through five
- Moving back into audio for the middle half . . . the Cybermen have found a way into the wheel. By way of controlling the crew members sent to investigate the rocket.
- & now, Two's being awesome & giving us a history of the Cybermen. Thankyou, Doctor! ::beams:: Needed that lesson, actually.
- Space sickness . . . o, a form of space dementia! [/Zoe voice] As a sidebar, there are many forms of space dementia, you know; it isn't always a case of madness due to prolonged living in outer space. It takes at least four different forms, both benevolent & malevolent.
- Hmm . . . is it not possible that part of . . . whatever that component for the laser that Two speaks of contains some form of radiation? That's the only idea I have - Cybermen are adverse to radiation, so if they plan on taking over the wheel, & if there's any onboard, that would have to be the first thing to go before they arrived.
- Aww, Jamie's learning about the technology of analogue recording - or rather, the concept of tape recorders! ::laughs:: His confusion is so cute.
- It may be a useless & pointless observation to make, but Cybermen have clearly no sense of honour - killing a man by shooting him in the back. How cowardly. Useless an observation as it is, it's still true & it still disgusts me. ::glares::
- O, Zoe. Her sadness - & that's what it is - about not being able to feel, & her worry that she'll never be able to feel anything says a lot about her, I think. When I listened to that (I'm replaying that bit now), I immediately likened her to a Cyberman, because people think of her as having no emotion, or being able to feel, even though, from what she says to Gemma, she can. In a way, Zoe is a bit like a Cyberman when we first meet her - not physically, or in her ideology, but in her almost emotionally dead state. But at the same time, she seems to, to take my Zoe-being-a-bit-like-a-Cyberman analogy a little further, if I may, be rebelling against her training.
She reminds me a bit of Kroton, actually. To quickly & I do mean quickly, explain who Kroton is, he's a Cyberman who became a companion to the Eighth Doctor & his companion Izzy Sinclair in Eight's comic stories. He retained his emotions & ability to feel after being converted & wound up saving both Eight & Izzy from space pirates, even after Eight almost killed him. He was basically a good, kind, friend of a Cyberman. & Zoe, in her desire to feel & to have emotions, reminds me a bit of Kroton.
& considering how Zoe was raised, & what she was raised to be, it seems very fitting that her introduction story should involve Cybermen.
(now I'm even realising how Victoria's first official serial as a companion involved Cybermen & Zoe's debut serial involves them as well. Probably just a coincidence, but it's another thing to tug at my mind for a while.)
- ::shudders:: The Cybermen have managed to disable the wheel's communication systems & have already killed twice. This is really, really not a good thing.
- 'I was trained to believe logic and calculation would provide me with all the answers. Well, I'm just beginning to realise there are questions which I can't answer.'
'You're just not trained for an emergency like this.'
'Well, that's the whole point - what good am I? I've been created for some false kind of existence, where only known kinds of emergencies are catered for. Well, what good is that to me now?'
'Hey. We're not done yet, you know.'
'And if we survive? What then, Jamie? Suppose we do get ourselves out of this mess. What have I got left? A blind reliance on facts and logic.'
I love her. ::hugs Zoe::
(I think Zoe is a lot like River Tam in this way - an absolute genius, or rather, what River could have been, if it were not for her madness & her brain having been picked apart by hands that should not have played with human physiology like that. But Zoe, I think, is just as much the prodigy that River is, but with all of her brain & more. What was taken from River, Zoe has, & what River is left with, Zoe had removed. But, like River learnt to pull herself together when she needed to, when people truly needed her, Zoe's learning that she can feel & that she can be a real girl with a real heart. Or at least, something to that effect - this is still a concept & an idea that I need to work out more fully in my head)
- So the Cybermen caused the explosion of the star as part of the way to get into the wheel? They can do that? Blow stars up?
- ::clings to poor, scared Jamie:: Even in the middle of a Cyberman invasion, they STILL have adorable moments of bickerbickerbicker! But still, I'm going to worry for him likewhoa.
- GEMMA! NO! They just shot her down - in cold blood! (if the Cybermen HAD blood, mind you - it would be cold as ice.)
The Wheel in Space - episode six
- For the final instalment, we'll be going back to the only other surviving part of this serial & several VERY ugly meteorites are headed right for Jamie & Zoe! However, the wheel's been able to blast them away from Jamie & Zoe.
- 'But anyway, we're all going to be killed shortly unless you switch over to sexual air supply!'
- O FUCK MAN, WATCHING A CYBERMAN THROW A HUMAN AROUND LIKE THAT IS FUCKING SCARY.
- Aww, Jamie & Zoe's first adventure together. & they're so very brother & sister already. I love it.
- You know, I think the relationship between Tanya & Leo is really cute. It's so obvious how much they care for each other, but it never gets in the way of the main story. It's lovely.
- Now I'm going to be really, really shallow for a moment (o, what, like I wasn't earlier?) & just say that Zoe? Has a very nice backside, even without the glitter to adorn it! Seriously. Couldn't help but sneak a glance or two when she was out of her spacesuit.
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- The shot of all those ghostly looking Cybermen is pretty chilly. ::shivers:: & the way they can just walk out in space totally unfettered is even more scary. I'd like to see a Cybus!Cyberman try & top that!
- Jamie in his space suit is both cute & giggle-worthy. It looks like he's preparing to do some serious extreme sporting in it.
- 'Well, look, Zoe - we won't forget you.'
::sniffles & slaps Jamie for that::
- ::grins:: Miss Zoe Heriot - you just sneaked onboard the TARDIS! For that, I salute you. ♥
- Two, why are you wearing Sailor Mars' tiara? Take that off, you silly silly man! ::giggles::
- & he shows Zoe a Dalek. A Dalek doing what it does best - killing someone. (in Victoria's first serial, no less.) But I have a feeling she'll still want to stay on. 'cause she's awesome like that.
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I may be a bit biased, because Zoe was the first Two-era companion I ever met, but I have to say, her introduction serial is a really good one. Of course, with Cybermen, Two & Jamie being awesome on their own & Zoe being pretty damn fab herself all makes for a great serial! & of course, this serial has lots of little bits in it that I positively & randomly adore & one of the best little LOLZ-worthy dialogue bits of the Troughton era which I have never recovered from since I first heard it, thankyouverymuch. Basically, it's just a great serial! What more's a girl gotta say?
& I have to say, I really love Wendy Padbury's narration of the story - I wish I could have heard her do more narration of her lost stories!
(O, one more thing . . . after viewing this serial, or rather, listening to it & watching it in its entirety, I . . . could actually ship Zoe with Two. No, really, I could. In fact, I think he's the only person I could ship her with & not have the O____o kind of face. If it's Jamie/Zoe, I'm like HELL NO, CAN'T READ IT, PLZ GET IT AWAY FROM MY PERSON THANKS, but Two/Zoe . . . I could give it a try. If it's good, of course! But I don't know . . . he's the only one I could see her actually having a romantic sort of relationship with, really. Jamie's too much like her big brother for me to be able to ship them, you see.)
& our final story for the week, Zoe Heriot's own Companion Chronicle, Fear of the Daleks.
Fear of the Daleks
- CHRIST, DALEKS! Okay, THAT was a good way to freak me the fuck out as soon as I started this audio!
- I think the beginning of Zoe's story is just beautiful. It's sad, yes, but also very beautifully said at the same time.
- Already, this audio makes me terribly sad. It makes me sad because it makes me feel like I'm looking long into the future after The War Games & how clearly the Time Lords fucked up her memory erasing. & I know I'm not ready to see that yet.
- A domed, habituated asteroid? I immediately thought of The Jetsons when Zoe said that. Actually, that's sort of what I keep seeing when she describes the city.
- Cinnamon fish! ::laughs::
- The Doctor had not heard of either race and that surprised me. 'I thought you knew everything.'
He was practical in his humility. 'If I knew everything, Zoe, what would be left to discover?'
- Two's calm = amazingly awesome. ♥♥
- 'Why thank you - probably!'
::gigglesnorts::
- Um, Two's panic over the possibility of the Daleks still being - or being - around gives me total chills.
- Why - why does anyone want to try to form an alliance with Daleks? Daleks . . . they're no better than ninety-nine point nine percent of Cybermen - they want to kill & destroy. They don't make deals!
- BACK THIS THE FUCK UP - they want to make Zoe an assassin?
THEY WANT TO MAKE ZOE AN ASSASSIN?
. . . . that is exactly, for those of you who don't know (though I think most of you will), what was attempted to be done on River Tam - but the process of stripping her brain down in places left her a raving lunatic - with psychic abilities & an assassin's training. Zoe's not psychic, but her brain, or at least, what's been done to it, seems to be a less damaging form of what was done to River's. (but I don't think Zoe's brain was operated on.)
- A codeword to activate Zoe as an assassin?
That's what they did to River - how they drew her out in Serenity - but with subliminal messages, as opposed to a codeword. When she saw them, she went on a killing spree, more or less.
- I'm not surprised that the scientific aspects of this fascinate Zoe - it fascinates me as well, though I'm not nearly as well-versed in scientific matters as she is.
- 'Speaking of sartorial lapses - be quiet, skirt boy!'
'I'll give you skirt boy!'
O no. You don't go about calling Jamie's kilt a skirt & expect to live! That's like throwing rocks at Leela & expecting not to get shanked.
- The way they've taken over Zoe's mind - it's making me think so much of River & what they did to her brain. It's frightening & rather upsetting at once.
- O, Zoe.
- O goddammit . . . Daleks. O my word . . . they're coming for the Doctor!
- 'Stowaway', I sighed. Not again.
- This story . . . it makes me terribly sad, but keeps me fascinated at the same time. It just makes me . . . well, very sad, because I keep thinking of River Tam & that this is what she could have become, if Simon had not intervened & saved her life. But Zoe . . . she's being controlled, & the Doctor & Jamie can't help her.
- O MY WORD! The Daleks . . . they've arrived in the laboratory.
- NO, NO, YOU CAN'T EXTERMINATE HIM!
- O, Two. ::breathes heavily:: You're insanely fast-thinking! & HA! I don't blame him for being pissed off by having his brain called 'acceptable' - YOU SILLY METAL PEPPERPOTS, THE DOCTOR'S BRAIN IS BETTER THAN YOURS ON HIS WORST DAY!
- 'INSOLENCE INVITES EXTERMINATION.'
Okay, not even going to lie - I actually made some kind of verbal wibble-noise when I heard that. That truly scared me, okay? It sounded frighteningly like something from The Natural History of Fear audio & that audio scares the living hell out of me.
- ::clings to Two:: Why are you so brave, Doctor? ::sniffle:: (& how can I be so brave?!)
- ::headdesks:: Seriously - anyone dumb enough to try & make deals, bargains or alliances with Daleks or Cybermen? Just get yourself exterminated or killed - FAST! You're polluting your species' gene pool, you know.
- ::clings to Two even harder:: ItotallykindoflovehimbutI'mtotallyfreakingoutforhim.
- BLOW THAT - THE DOCTOR'S MIND IS BETTER & STRONGER THAN ANY OF YOURS!
- O . . . Zoe, Zoe, Zoe. ::cries::
- O, TWO! ::collapses:: He's got her, & he can protect her now.
- NO! YOU LAY ANY OF YOUR HANDS ON JAMIE & TWO WILL LET THE DALEKS KILL YOU.
- Daleks can't be bargained with, you fools. Not now, not then, not ever. IT WOULD DO THE UNIVERSE WELL TO LEARN SUCH A LESSON.
- O god . . . being inside the mind of a Dalek . . . I can't imagine anything more horrifying to experience, psychically. Reavers & Daleks . . . their minds are the most frightening places a psychic could be. If you could even look inside one without going completely insane on the spot.
- A Dalek asking for the Doctor to exterminate them . . . & his refusal. His refusal to exterminate the Daleks. It's almost like Four in Genesis of the Daleks - how he refuses to destroy the Dalek embryos because it would make him no better than the Daleks, & Sarah Jane insisting that he do it . . . just what Zoe does, but Sarah Jane wasn't holding the wires.
- ::breathes slowly:: Jamie saved their lives. Jamie, Jamie, Jamie . . . ♥♥♥ Which makes this audio even more heart-wrenching to hear.
- & Zoe after telling her story . . . she can remember. Just a little, can't she? It's so small - but it can give one hope that maybe the Time Lords weren't as thorough at memory wiping as one might think.
(&
nentari, I tried not to, but I wound up thinking something a little similar like what you mentioned in the end. Different form, though.)---------
That was definitely a great entry in the Companion Chronicles, I think. It was sad & beautiful & a little hopeful in the end - & of course, quite a thrilling adventure in itself! & there were even moments where I had to try really hard not to cry. It also had shades of Firefly & Serenity to it, I think, which is even more wonderful, though it was those that made me sad.
& the ending . . . it gave me hope for Zoe, that maybe she can remember. Just like the ending of Serenity always gives me hope that River can take care of herself, & begin to mend over time. The only differences between the two are that Zoe's ending is still very heartbreaking, while River's isn't, so much.
Also, I loved hearing Wendy Padbury's narration again! I hope Zoe gets a second story - I know Jamie's second one is coming out in August (!!!), so maybe there's hope for a second story for Zoe?
::fireworks pop off:: Those are our serial recaps for the week! Next week I'll be covering The Dominators, The Mind Robber (which was my first Two-era serial ever, so that'll be a fun exercise in nostalgia for me!) & my second favourite serial of the Troughton era, The Invasion. Plus, I'll be getting back to watching things, as opposed to listening to them again! Which is, of course, the most fun in doing a rewatch-athon. ::beams::
Previous recaps
The Dalek Invasion of Earth
The Time Meddler
The War Machines
The Smugglers
The Tenth Planet
The Power of the Daleks
The Highlanders
The Underwater Menace
The Moonbase
The Macra Terror
The Faceless Ones
The Evil of the Daleks
The Evil of the Daleks - audio version
Tomb of the Cybermen
The Great Space Elevator (Victoria's Companion Chronicle)
The Abominable Snowmen - audio & serial
The Ice Warriors - audio
The Enemy of the World - audio & serial
The Web of Fear - audio & serial
tagging
- and please stop calling me 'vic'!,
- boyshapes: david troughton,
- boyshapes: patrick troughton,
- girlshapes: wendy padbury,
- i love space dandies,
- jamie brings the badassery in monochrome,
- kroton's my cyberman bff,
- love your edwardian adventuresses,
- lovers: jamie/victoria,
- lovers: two/jamie,
- lovers: two/zoe,
- obsessions: doctor who,
- obsessions: firefly,
- she always did love to dance,
- space beatniks are awesome,
- the great&mighty troughton rewatch-athon,
- zoe heriot dreams in binary
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Date: 2009-07-26 09:50 am (UTC)::WRIGGLES:: YAY!
& OMG THANKYOU FOR THE LINK! :D I ♥ little things like that - I like to collect moving pixels myself - I've a bunch of tea & strawberry-themed ones. :D
I'm glad to know.
Even for Classic!Who, I try to stay unspoiled. I LIKE IT LIKE THAT.
And incidentally? Frazer once said that in the scene where that cap comes from he was channelling Pat. :D
::FLAILS:: EVEN HE KNOWS HE DID IT! (& on second, closer look at your icon, he IS! Look at Pat's face, then his - CHANNELLING! :D) ::draws hearts:: He is FABULOUSLY good at it - & in voice, as well!
Well, they can't be in every story, no matter how much we like to see them.
Kroton: WHAT? You mean I'll never get a serial of my own?!
Of course, Fourteen had some blame when it happened to her. She has picked the most infuriating habit from River Song, of refusing to tell spoilers - though granted, she did it for the best of reasons, feeling that revealing things to Jamie before his mind remembered them on its own could have some bad results.
Hmm. That WAS another terribly annoying thing about miss Song, but Fourteen I will let get away with it, because she has a sound reason for it.
(& I have a habit of that too - well, more like people will ask me to tell them spoilers & I'll say 'NO! NO SPOILERS!' I HATE spoiling people, so I never do, even when they ask.)
Yes. It just breaks my heart. *sighs*
::hugs you:: Mine too. Into little pink crystal pieces. :(
I very much doubt it. I still remember how mean he was to the TARDIS when she landed him in the right point in space and time in episode 1 of The Time Warrior. "Well done, old girl. Absolutely on target... *pauses grumpily* for once." What kind of a thank-you is that, Doctor? *grumbles*
::sighs irritably in Three's general direction:: I don't think she appreciated that very much!
Oh yes - I moved Victoria to London as soon as she could, in order to attend college there. Her tea sessions with Three became more frequent from that point on, as he didn't have to cross the country to see her.
O!! I love what you have her doing in London - I had the idea of perhaps her working in a little shop or something, so she could become more acquainted with life in the new time period she was now living in, but her going to school is also a good option! (She hasn't actually told Eight what she's done since moving to London since I haven't decided. Or would her in a little boutique job be too out-of-character? Maybe a teashop, if she DOES work?)
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Date: 2009-07-26 10:20 am (UTC)Aw, that's lovely.
::FLAILS:: EVEN HE KNOWS HE DID IT!
Oh yes, he started doing all the channelling on purpose, until it was enbedded in his psyche. :D Jamie's nightmare in The Mind Robber was another channelling moment, as he stated in the commentaries. And, of course, Helicon Prime is the strongest example of Frazer's channelling powers.
Kroton: WHAT? You mean I'll never get a serial of my own?!
You might, dear. It just hasn't happened yet.
Hmm. That WAS another terribly annoying thing about miss Song
Of course, it also means that all the Doctor/River shippers might get highly disappointed, because her "spoiler" comments might also have been a way to tease the Doctor by implying things were a little less innocent between them. Until I'm proven otherwise, I'll keep on believing they were just good friends and that she was taking the mickey out of Ten.
::sighs irritably in Three's general direction:: I don't think she appreciated that very much!
If the TARDIS has been more responsive, the way she is in Fourteen's time, we probably would have heard the TARDIS equivalent of a raspberry being blown in Three's general direction when he gave that shameful remark.
I had the idea of perhaps her working in a little shop or something, so she could become more acquainted with life in the new time period she was now living in, but her going to school is also a good option!
My decision to make her go to school has to do with the explanation the writers give for Victoria's absence in The Two Doctors and Helicon Prime - it's something as surprising as her knowing how to pick locks, but in the end I think it works well for her.
Or would her in a little boutique job be too out-of-character? Maybe a teashop, if she DOES work?
Either would work well, I think - though the boutique might be more of a Debbie thing than a Victoria thing. The War Games DVD has a pdf file with Radio Times articles on the show around the time that serial aired; most are just information on the episode that was airing that week, but there's also a small article announcing Pat's departure, which mentions that Debbie opened a boutique after leaving the show, and that her costumers kept asking for clothes like the ones Victoria had in the show.
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Date: 2009-07-26 12:03 pm (UTC)Here are a teeny-tiny sample of my favourites:
Oh yes, he started doing all the channelling on purpose, until it was enbedded in his psyche. :D Jamie's nightmare in The Mind Robber was another channelling moment, as he stated in the commentaries. And, of course, Helicon Prime is the strongest example of Frazer's channelling powers.
Oooo, Helicon Prime . . . what I HAVE heard of it, I have to agree with you - his channelling of Pat is EPIC in that, seriously. If you didn't know better, you'd swear it WAS Pat. :D
& I think I should add, because I don't think I SAID it when I mentioned it, Frazer's TOTALLY to blame for putting the image of Pat singing Françoise Hardy's Tous Les Garçons et les Filles with the French accent because of how he did a little impression of Pat doing a Welsh accent in the commentary for The Invasion. & after I heard that, then I discovered her song . . . um, silly girlieness was born? (I SWEAR, THIS IS ON-TOPIC. ::falls back on her bed::)
You might, dear. It just hasn't happened yet.
Kroton: Well, it's not like I want to be famous or anything . . . but being on television would be kind of neat! And I wouldn't need to wear any makeup either!
Of course, it also means that all the Doctor/River shippers might get highly disappointed, because her "spoiler" comments might also have been a way to tease the Doctor by implying things were a little less innocent between them. Until I'm proven otherwise, I'll keep on believing they were just good friends and that she was taking the mickey out of Ten.
I can steals this theory for my own self? ::bright smile::
If the TARDIS has been more responsive, the way she is in Fourteen's time, we probably would have heard the TARDIS equivalent of a raspberry being blown in Three's general direction when he gave that shameful remark.
& in this case, I would have said he rightly deserved it!
My decision to make her go to school has to do with the explanation the writers give for Victoria's absence in The Two Doctors and Helicon Prime - it's something as surprising as her knowing how to pick locks, but in the end I think it works well for her.
O, I see! Hmm . . . do you think I should REALLY wait until I see The Two Doctors to start on this again, or could I work with it now that I've seen all of her major serials?
Either would work well, I think - though the boutique might be more of a Debbie thing than a Victoria thing. The War Games DVD has a pdf file with Radio Times articles on the show around the time that serial aired; most are just information on the episode that was airing that week, but there's also a small article announcing Pat's departure, which mentions that Debbie opened a boutique after leaving the show, and that her costumers kept asking for clothes like the ones Victoria had in the show.
O, good! I HAVE worried if her working would be really out-of-character for her, but in the sixties, girls DID work in shops & coffeehouses & such, so I think it's feasible that she would do that in order to learn more about her new life.
& I had NO IDEA about Debbie having her own boutique when I started the story! I thought a boutique would be nice for Victoria because it's respectable, she wouldn't have to deal with creepy men like she would if she had a job like Kitty's, & it wasn't something tiresome as secretarial work - i.e., kind of a random pick, but WOW. I seem to have done it again. :D But I'll think on both options now - she & Eight WILL be going to a teashop, so maybe a boutique would be better. But the teashop would work as well . . . ::ponders::
(& o, I KNOW I'd ask Debbie if she had any dresses like the one Victoria wore in her last serial! I LOVE that dress & I'd totally wear it myself.)
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Date: 2009-07-26 12:20 pm (UTC)Oooo, Helicon Prime . . . what I HAVE heard of it, I have to agree with you - his channelling of Pat is EPIC in that, seriously. If you didn't know better, you'd swear it WAS Pat. :D
In the interview afterwards, someone points out this teeny tiny detail Frazer does to enhance his Pat voice, and it certainly makes all the difference. Frazer then adds that he has recently realized he now does that little thing unconsciously, so the channelling is certainly permanent now. The interviewer also points out that Peter Purves did a similar thing when he did some Hartnell channelling of his own in Steven's CC and later on confessed that little thing (the amused "hm!" One sometimes did) is now something Peter does himself as well. Boys and their Doctors. :D
& I think I should add, because I don't think I SAID it when I mentioned it, Frazer's TOTALLY to blame for putting the image of Pat singing Françoise Hardy's Tous Les Garçons et les Filles with the French accent because of how he did a little impression of Pat doing a Welsh accent in the commentary for The Invasion.
*grins*
Kroton: Well, it's not like I want to be famous or anything . . . but being on television would be kind of neat! And I wouldn't need to wear any makeup either!
And what's more, you could be part of the show for as long as you wanted, even if it was to last 45 more years!
I can steals this theory for my own self? ::bright smile::
But of course!
And her "Hello, sweetie" greeting to the Doctor? That's because Eleven was so young she felt motherly towards him.
O, I see! Hmm . . . do you think I should REALLY wait until I see The Two Doctors to start on this again, or could I work with it now that I've seen all of her major serials?
I don't think you need to wait. The explanation for her absense could be seen as just a hobby, and she could have decided to go for some other occupation.
I thought a boutique would be nice for Victoria because it's respectable, she wouldn't have to deal with creepy men like she would if she had a job like Kitty's, & it wasn't something tiresome as secretarial work
A good reasoning, I think.
But I'll think on both options now - she & Eight WILL be going to a teashop, so maybe a boutique would be better. But the teashop would work as well . . . ::ponders::
She could be allowed to have some tea with a friend during a break, I think. *nods*
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Date: 2009-07-26 01:40 pm (UTC)In the interview afterwards, someone points out this teeny tiny detail Frazer does to enhance his Pat voice, and it certainly makes all the difference. Frazer then adds that he has recently realized he now does that little thing unconsciously, so the channelling is certainly permanent now. The interviewer also points out that Peter Purves did a similar thing when he did some Hartnell channelling of his own in Steven's CC and later on confessed that little thing (the amused "hm!" One sometimes did) is now something Peter does himself as well. Boys and their Doctors. :D
AWWWWW! ::claps hands:: That's awesome! (& I'll be quite excited to hear the interview! :D)
*grins*
::has herself a mad bit of blushing:: I am SUCH a girl, aren't I? ::giggle::
And what's more, you could be part of the show for as long as you wanted, even if it was to last 45 more years!
Kroton: Now THAT'S pretty cool! I wonder what it's like to be famous . . .
And her "Hello, sweetie" greeting to the Doctor? That's because Eleven was so young she felt motherly towards him.
YES! Until I see otherwise, THAT IS ALL IT IS. ::hangs onto theory happily::
I don't think you need to wait. The explanation for her absense could be seen as just a hobby, and she could have decided to go for some other occupation.
O, splendid then! :D Now I just have to decide what her job will be . . .
She could be allowed to have some tea with a friend during a break, I think. *nods*
O, I think so too, but I thought they would spend the day together - & end up in Hyde Park at sunset, where he'll finally tell her about Jamie . . . yes, angst time then. :O
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Date: 2009-07-26 01:54 pm (UTC)You mean like the ones I use in my journal?
They come from here, in case you're interested.
::has herself a mad bit of blushing:: I am SUCH a girl, aren't I? ::giggle::
Well, you *are* a girl, you know... :P
Kroton: Now THAT'S pretty cool! I wonder what it's like to be famous . . .
Young girls screaming and chasing you everywhere. :P
O, I think so too, but I thought they would spend the day together - & end up in Hyde Park at sunset, where he'll finally tell her about Jamie . . . yes, angst time then. :O
Yes, that sounds lovely... and sad, of course.
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Date: 2009-07-27 07:50 am (UTC)Well, you *are* a girl, you know... :P
::giggle:: Well . . . yes, I am, of course! Otherwise my fondness for cupcakes, cute things & Hello Kitty EVERYTHING would just be very hard to explain. :P
Young girls screaming and chasing you everywhere. :P
Kroton: . . . Why would they be screaming & running after me? I could see them running AWAY from me, what with me being a Cyberman and all, but screaming and running TOWARD me? Hmm. Weird planet that would be.
Yes, that sounds lovely... and sad, of course.
Yes. Twice. ::sniffles:: I might let Eight bring her back to his TARDIS to compose herself afterward before she went home - unless that would be even more painful for her. ::wibble::
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Date: 2009-07-27 09:19 am (UTC)I know. It's really odd that, with all the fangirls he has.
::giggle:: Well . . . yes, I am, of course! Otherwise my fondness for cupcakes, cute things & Hello Kitty EVERYTHING would just be very hard to explain. :P
Well, it could be explained by your refusal to fit into a gender label. Either that, or you're Klinger. :P
Kroton: . . . Why would they be screaming & running after me? I could see them running AWAY from me, what with me being a Cyberman and all, but screaming and running TOWARD me? Hmm. Weird planet that would be.
Teenage humans, especially females, have been like this since 1963. I don't think anyone has ever managed to explain the reason why this is.
I might let Eight bring her back to his TARDIS to compose herself afterward before she went home - unless that would be even more painful for her.
It probably would be - though, of course, it all depends on how distressed Victoria might be, and how Eight suggests it.
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Date: 2009-07-27 10:29 am (UTC)Yes . . . I think I'll have a poke around
Well, it could be explained by your refusal to fit into a gender label. Either that, or you're Klinger. :P
::giggles a la Romana in the footage from Shada:: Both would work. :P
Teenage humans, especially females, have been like this since 1963. I don't think anyone has ever managed to explain the reason why this is.
Kroton: Oh. The Doctor didn't mention that, actually . . . wait, I've never seen her do that! ::points at Betsy:: But she's not a teenager anymore - forgot that!
It probably would be - though, of course, it all depends on how distressed Victoria might be, and how Eight suggests it.
I . . . well, I saw it as he would tell her the whole story - the Time Lords forcibly taking Jamie away from him & erasing his memories without choice & well . . . I thought that she would cry. A lot. & Eight would feel horrible about her being so upset & ask her if she wants to come back to his TARDIS until she feels calm enough to go home. ::rubs the back of her head:: This isn't easy to think about . . . :(
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Date: 2009-07-27 10:37 am (UTC)Maybe she's just waiting for the right moment to attack. :P
And I feel that in that context she'd probably would be too distressed to pay much attention to the TARDIS - and considering how much her interior changed, she'd probably have less reasons for feeling nostalgic after she managed to compose herself.
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Date: 2009-07-27 11:26 am (UTC)Betsy: ::makes a face:: I am NOT. Kroton and I are just best friends! ::leaps on his back::
Kroton: Aww, thanks - not something I hear too often, you know.
And I feel that in that context she'd probably would be too distressed to pay much attention to the TARDIS - and considering how much her interior changed, she'd probably have less reasons for feeling nostalgic after she managed to compose herself.
Good point - thinking on it now, after you've said that, I think it's enough that I've got JAMIE into Eight's TARDIS
for sex- he can have all the awe & whoa, new theme that Victoria won't have. (but I did think crying rather hard in Hyde Park at sunset would just be very cold - but then again, I'm thinking of how it's always very cold here.)no subject
Date: 2009-07-27 11:30 am (UTC)I'm happy to hear it. :)
but I did think crying rather hard in Hyde Park at sunset would just be very cold - but then again, I'm thinking of how it's always very cold here.
Okay, you've just given me some very chilling (in more than one way) flashbacks to Mike Yates' audio - there's people freezing to death in Hyde Park in that one.
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Date: 2009-07-27 12:12 pm (UTC)Kroton: Me too! Plus, there's that whole thing about me being a Cyberman and not being human anymore, but that's not to say I don't -
Betsy: SO, WHAT ABOUT THAT MIND ALTERING DRUG THE DOCTOR FOUND ON JUPITER THAT ONE TIME? That was fascinating! Have I ever told you about that one, Kroton?
Okay, you've just given me some very chilling (in more than one way) flashbacks to Mike Yates' audio - there's people freezing to death in Hyde Park in that one.
ACK! I's sorry! But see? I was thinking that crying in Hyde Park would be rather cold, so I thought being in the TARDIS might be better if one is going to be almost hysterical.
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Date: 2009-07-27 01:10 pm (UTC)Ooh boy.
But see? I was thinking that crying in Hyde Park would be rather cold, so I thought being in the TARDIS might be better if one is going to be almost hysterical.
Yes, you've got a point there. *tries not to think of the audio again*
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Date: 2009-07-28 07:15 am (UTC)Betsy: YES, IT WAS A MAGICKAL DRUG. Er, not that we took it, and no, Fitz wasn't involved and there was NO hallucinogenic sexing, no matter WHAT he might think!
. . . oops, might have said too much there . . . ::whistles innocently::
Yes, you've got a point there. *tries not to think of the audio again*
::nods thoughtfully:: But you have just as good a point as well . . . I just don't want her upset & cold as well! That's not much fun.
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Date: 2009-07-28 09:40 am (UTC)Kroton: *would be staring open-mouthed if his mouth was able to open more*
::nods thoughtfully:: But you have just as good a point as well . . . I just don't want her upset & cold as well! That's not much fun.
I think Eight would probably try to make sure she was in a comfortable place before giving her the news about Jamie.
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Date: 2009-07-29 07:14 am (UTC)Betsy: Um . . . WHO'S FOR TEA? Or actually . . . I'm sure Kroton has a story he wants to tell us! ::pets Kroton:: DON'T YOU, Kroton? ::sugar & spice & all that nice stuff::
I think Eight would probably try to make sure she was in a comfortable place before giving her the news about Jamie.
Yes, that's true . . . hmm. Well . . . I'll worry about all of that when I get there, I suppose. But he'd give her his coat, wouldn't he? & a hankie, yes? That could work!
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Date: 2009-07-29 09:45 am (UTC)Kroton: *regaining his composure* I do?
But he'd give her his coat, wouldn't he? & a hankie, yes? That could work!
Yes, he'd definitely do that. :D
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Date: 2009-07-29 10:53 pm (UTC)Betsy: Why of COURSE you do, love! You're . . . made of metal and all that stuff! You've been all over the galaxy! I'm sure you can tell us SOMETHING! Here, I'll start - does it hurt if I poke you in the head? ::pokes Kroton in the head repeatedly::
Yes, he'd definitely do that. :D
He wouldn't be Eight if he didn't! (it sort of reminds me of how in Jo's Companion Chronicle, Three sort of lets Jo snuggle up in his cape to keep her warm for the night. I can't tell you how many times - or how LOUDLY - I went AWWWWW! at that. :D)
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Date: 2009-07-29 10:58 pm (UTC)(I'm not sure if I should be writing Kroton's lines, by the way - I know of him, but I never actually read his stories.)
it sort of reminds me of how in Jo's Companion Chronicle, Three sort of lets Jo snuggle up in his cape to keep her warm for the night. I can't tell you how many times - or how LOUDLY - I went AWWWWW! at that. :D
Well, I'll have to say it too: AWWWWWWWWW.
Speaking of Big Finish stuff, I've managed to listen to the Company of Friends trailer at the Big Finish website and that when I heard a voice saying "The name's Kreiner. Fitz Kreiner." I went OMGSQUEE! The trailer is here, by the way, if you want it.
A browse through the website also gave me the cover for next month's Companion Chronicle:
The synopsis says that this story will take place in 1688 (almost 60 years before Jamie's own time, then), and that it takes place between The Seeds of Death and The Space Pirates - in other words, there will be Zoe (as if the cover didn't make it clear enough). I can't wait to hear Frazer reading her lines. XD
The bad news is, we still have a memory-blocked Jamie, just like in Helicon Prime. :(
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Date: 2009-07-30 12:45 am (UTC)Betsy: Oh . . . okay then. ::hugs him some more & wraps tinsel around his head::
(I'm not sure if I should be writing Kroton's lines, by the way - I know of him, but I never actually read his stories.)
. . . I'm going to fix that for you. I promise. ::nods sagely::
Well, I'll have to say it too: AWWWWWWWWW.
IT WAS SO CUTE! (& she was meant to be going on a date with Mike Yates - but well, she wound up in Three's cape instead! HA! :D)
Speaking of Big Finish stuff, I've managed to listen to the Company of Friends trailer at the Big Finish website and that when I heard a voice saying "The name's Kreiner. Fitz Kreiner." I went OMGSQUEE!
I'VE GOT IT. It JUST finished downloading a few moments ago. I AM NOT EVEN GOING TO WAIT TO GET HOME TO HEAR IT, I AM MAKING IT AN AUDIOBOOK & LISTENING NOW. ::clings to Fitz happily::
& OMFG JAMIE'S SECOND ONE IS COMING OUT NEXT MONTH?! OMG! ::breathes::
The synopsis says that this story will take place in 1688 (almost 60 years before Jamie's own time, then), and that it takes place between The Seeds of Death and The Space Pirates - in other words, there will be Zoe (as if the cover didn't make it clear enough). I can't wait to hear Frazer reading her lines. XD
The bad news is, we still have a memory-blocked Jamie, just like in Helicon Prime. :(
I'm a bit amused at this taking place so long before Jamie's own time - you see, the, um, book I read, which gave way to my Jamie/Victoria (& the one that Jamie is meant to be reading in it, but you wouldn't know unless I told you) is set in the same century - I forget the year, but I'm quite sure it's the same century! & OMG ZOE! ::dances:: YAAAAY. ^__^
But I'll still wibble over Memory!Blocked!Jamie nevertheless. ::sniffle::
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Date: 2009-07-30 05:38 am (UTC)Kroton: Thank you. It's just that it's very disconcerting to have someone poking you, even if you can't feel it.
IT WAS SO CUTE! (& she was meant to be going on a date with Mike Yates - but well, she wound up in Three's cape instead! HA! :D)
Three is determined to break Jo's dates with Mike. :P
I'VE GOT IT. It JUST finished downloading a few moments ago. I AM NOT EVEN GOING TO WAIT TO GET HOME TO HEAR IT, I AM MAKING IT AN AUDIOBOOK & LISTENING NOW. ::clings to Fitz happily::
OH MY GOD I AM SO JEALOUS RIGHT NOW! FIIIIIIIIIIIIIITZ! ♥
& OMFG JAMIE'S SECOND ONE IS COMING OUT NEXT MONTH?! OMG! ::breathes::
And King Peladon's will be the one after that!
I'm a bit amused at this taking place so long before Jamie's own time - you see, the, um, book I read, which gave way to my Jamie/Victoria (& the one that Jamie is meant to be reading in it, but you wouldn't know unless I told you) is set in the same century - I forget the year, but I'm quite sure it's the same century!
That seems to be a favourite century when it comes to write stories about Scots.
But I'll still wibble over Memory!Blocked!Jamie nevertheless. ::sniffle::
Thirteen will be crashing by his doorstep any time soon... The Fourteenverse will happen... *is stubborn*
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Date: 2009-07-30 09:19 am (UTC)Betsy: You're welcome, Kroton. I was thinking about poking you in the eye, but I thought that might be a bit mean, even for me and you - just because your best friend doesn't really HAVE any eyes doesn't give someone the right to stick pointy fingers in them!
Three is determined to break Jo's dates with Mike. :P
THIS IS FACT OF WIN. ::NODS::
OH MY GOD I AM SO JEALOUS RIGHT NOW! FIIIIIIIIIIIIIITZ! ♥
FITZ IS AMAZING IN IT, OMFG. SERIOUSLY - I WANT A FITZ OF MY OWN, NOW. He was . . . AMAZING. & you were SO, SO RIGHT ABOUT HOW UNNECESSARY SUBTEXT IS FOR THOSE TWO. There are SO many Two/Jamie-esque moments between them that my HEAD nearly exploded into pink shimmer. YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW HARD IT IS FOR ME TO KEEP MUM ABOUT IT.
And King Peladon's will be the one after that!
::firecrackers go off:: ZOMG!
That seems to be a favourite century when it comes to write stories about Scots.
Apparently so - all the . . . erm, romantic tales of Scotsmen I find - well, just look at - at the bookshops are set in that century. My . . . particular one is set in 1608. (I had to look it up, then stuff it under my Hello Kitty pillow out of sheer embarrassment!)
Thirteen will be crashing by his doorstep any time soon... The Fourteenverse will happen... *is stubborn*
IT WILL, IT WILL! ::is just as stubborn as you::
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Date: 2009-07-30 09:35 am (UTC)Kroton: Yes, that would be even worse.
THIS IS FACT OF WIN. ::NODS::
Sorry, Mike, but that's how it goes - you steal Benton's cheese, the Doctor steals your date. :P
FITZ IS AMAZING IN IT, OMFG. SERIOUSLY - I WANT A FITZ OF MY OWN, NOW. He was . . . AMAZING.
BUT OF COURSE - HE'S FITZ KREINER!
& you were SO, SO RIGHT ABOUT HOW UNNECESSARY SUBTEXT IS FOR THOSE TWO. There are SO many Two/Jamie-esque moments between them that my HEAD nearly exploded into pink shimmer. YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW HARD IT IS FOR ME TO KEEP MUM ABOUT IT.
Oh, there's no need to keep mum on my account. I rejoice in any form of squeefests when it comes to the great Fitz Fortune.
And besides, I've been reading reviews that focus solely on Fitz-squeeing and the slashiness of it all, all of it making me itch even more to get my hands on it. I especially want to hear the moment that prompted someone to write this comment:
::firecrackers go off:: ZOMG!
Big Finish is full of win right now. There's already a cover for that one as well, and King Peladon looks the way David Troughton does right now, as opposed to the young lad he was in the show. This, for some reason, fills me with glee.
Apparently so - all the . . . erm, romantic tales of Scotsmen I find - well, just look at - at the bookshops are set in that century.
yeah, the Jacobite period seems to have a certain mystique. Either that, or it's Jamie's fault, the way it was when Diana Gabaldon wrote Outlander.
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Date: 2009-07-30 10:28 am (UTC)::hugs her tinsel wearing Cyberman BFF:: Kroton, you're the best Cyberman a girl could ever have for a friend! Now, can I put stickers on you please?
Sorry, Mike, but that's how it goes - you steal Benton's cheese, the Doctor steals your date. :P
KARMA. NOW WITH ADDED TIME LORDS! :D
BUT OF COURSE - HE'S FITZ KREINER!
& HE NEEDS TO CALL ME. Preferably doll, but he's FITZ, so I'm not going to be picky!
Oh, there's no need to keep mum on my account. I rejoice in any form of squeefests when it comes to the great Fitz Fortune.
And besides, I've been reading reviews that focus solely on Fitz-squeeing and the slashiness of it all, all of it making me itch even more to get my hands on it. I especially want to hear the moment that prompted someone to write this comment
OMFG YOU KNOW ABOUT THE HUG OMFG YES! ::SQUEALS:: When they hugged I just FLIPPED OUT on the inside - HUGGING! EIGHT! FITZ!
& I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE THE MYSTERIOUS SOUND WHEN THEY SAY GOODBYE. :O LISTENING AGAIN AS SOON AS I HEAR MARY'S STORY. ::flails::
They so kissed. You know they did. THEY DID IN THE EDAS!!Yes, you HAVE to get this audio - SOMEHOW, SOMEWAY.Big Finish is full of win right now. There's already a cover for that one as well, and King Peladon looks the way David Troughton does right now, as opposed to the young lad he was in the show. This, for some reason, fills me with glee.
OMG. :D Got a link/snap/ANYTHING of the cover? Me wants to seeeeee. ^_^
yeah, the Jacobite period seems to have a certain mystique. Either that, or it's Jamie's fault, the way it was when Diana Gabaldon wrote Outlander.
I blame it on Jamie. THE MALE PROTAGONIST'S NAME IN MY BOOK IS JAMIE. & he calls the pretty lady he woos 'Princess'. :P I read that & immediately thought of Ben & Polly. Now, if he was a piper, I'd wonder if this was something like my thinly-veiled published Paul McGann porn. WHICH WOULDN'T BE A BAD THING, RIGHT?
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