![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
riverdressesOkay, before we delve into this week's recaps, I thought I'd show the interested portion of my flist this fabulous shirt that the awesome ![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
wordsindreams showed me.
THERE ARE PRACTICALLY NO WORDS TO DESCRIBE HOW DAMN BAD I THINK I WANT THAT SHIRT. I mean, even Sara Kingdom gets a mention! ::bounces:: IT'S AWESOME!
So this week's serial set . . . it's kind of series of endings & beginnings. We have Victoria's final serial (which I cried a bit during), Zoe's first adventure with Two & Jamie, & her post-War Games Companion Chronicle. This week was a bit depressing like that, but next week, it'll be much better, promise!
So, without further ado, let's begin with Fury From the Deep - the last serial for the lady Victoria Waterfield.
Fury From the Deep - audio
- Aww, Two, Jamie & Victoria in a boat! ::laughs:: Isn't that cute!
- LOLZ NOW THEY'RE PLAYING WITH FOAM! ::gigglesnorts:: How adorable! I can just see the three of them having a grand foam fight on the ocean!
- The image of Two, Jamie & Victoria on a beach is actually very cute. It would make a lovely picture, I think.
- HOLY SHIT THE FIRST APPEARANCE OF THE SONIC SCREWDRIVER!! Two made the sonic screwdriver what it is, bitches! DON'T YOU EVER FORGET!
- O GOD THEY JUST SHOT TWO! ::screams:: & JAMIE & VICTORIA! WHAT THE FUCK?!
- ::pets Two:: He doesn't sound very well, the poor love.
(& I'm giggling a bit at how cute Pat sounds just now. Hee!)
- Jamie's remark about always getting locked up makes me think of C'rizz saying 'What is it with the TARDIS and prisons lately?' in the audio Memory Lane.
- Harris seems a very gentle person, I think - almost apologetic for his superior's actions. He's quite kind, I would say.
- LOLZ, Victoria picks a lock with a hairpin & Jamie just falls out into a corridor! Victoria = T E H AWESOME.
- ::sighs heavily at Two for being so overprotective of Victoria::
- HA! But Victoria's not staying behind just because she's a 'mere girl' - she'll do her own exploring, thankyouverymuch!
- ACK, GAS-MASK WEARING CREATURES! ::dives under bed::
Are you my mummy?
- Miss Waterfield, who did teach you to pick locks like that? ::grins:: Or is that just been a secret you've been hiding from everyone until now?
- EEK, LIVING FOAM!
- O, the idea of Victoria's screaming just multiplying itself all over the refinery - that's a rather scary thought to me. I would be so afraid of never being found, if my screaming kept echoing like that.
- ::hugs Victoria tightly::
- Living, breathing, possibly killer foam . . . this is getting rather creepy now.
- Okay, getting slight shivers down my spine at the idea of people who are part people, part seaweed.
- I have to say, even though this was meant to be a serial, it works really well with just the audio, at least from my point of view. I don't know how terrifying it would be if I were watching it, or a recon of it, but as an audio, it's pretty spooky in places. Actual chills up & down my spine & all over my arms.
& I know that this recap must seem very quiet & subdued for a serial-audio I've described as 'spooky', but I'm listening to it with a great deal of trepidation & discomfort, because I know part of how this will end. & I don't like it at all.
- & the seaweed-people can turn others into seaweed-people? Hmmm.
- O, Victoria's showing her science skills! ::squeals:: & for that matter, so is Jamie! I ♥ it.
- For some reason, I'm highly amused as Two being described as an 'old man' & Jamie & Victoria as 'teenagers'. I actually never think of Two as old at all - I actually really don't.
- O goodness! IT'S VERY MUCH ALIVE! ::hides::
- Some of the music in this serial sounds a lot like the Jaws theme - just more electronic & technologically-minded. Which makes this serial-audio even more freaky - that music is pretty chilling on its own.
- JESUS WHAT IS WITH ALL THE BLOODY FOAM?! I'll never be able to take a bubble bath comfortably again.
- Poor Jamie. He nearly died from that gas, the poor love.
- O. O my. The ending is already starting. & I've already got a terrible knot in my stomach from it.
- Hmm. Jamie & Victoria are sharing a room. No, just saying 'hmm.'
(& guh, Jamie also has THE VOICE. brb, having the heart flutters.)
- I know, I should be saying something about Victoria. I know. But I can't. This - hearing how unhappy she is, is just breaking my heart. Her unhappiness makes me feel sick inside - she's so scared & she just wants to not be in danger constantly, or to be afraid all the time. I . . . I can sympathise with her, to a very tiny extent. & maybe that's part of why I can't say anything about her misery.
This serial, for a six-parter, feels like its going by so fast. It barely feels like a six-parter. & every moment, that knot gets bigger & bigger. I don't want this to end. It's become such that I barely notice what's happening in everything else; all I can notice & feel is how truly upset Victoria is.
- 'Victoria! Victoria . . . say something. No . . . no, you can't be dead. Victoria . . . if anything happened to you I'd never forgive myself.'
That? That was the sound of my heart literally snapping in two. Snapping in two, three, four, five - Jamie, stop it! ::bursts into tears:: You love her, & she can't take any of this life anymore & you still love her & it's BREAKING MY HEART.
I can't take very much more of this, I think. Victoria's breaking my heart, Jamie being so in love with her is killing me - fucksocks, the only person IN this damn story who hasn't broken me down yet is Two!
- Jamie & Victoria are splitting my heart right down the middle. I want this to end & I don't want it to end.
- JAMIE! That - JAMIE, GET AWAY FROM HIM! ::breathes:: O, you're alright, m'dear, you're alright.
- For someone who doesn't seem to do very well on flying machines, save for the TARDIS, Jamie certainly flies in a fair few of them!
- Okay, shallow moment: Jamie getting out of a helicopter = ALL THE MORE REASON WHY THIS SERIAL SHOULD HAVE SURVIVED, SRSLY, MAN.
- The one time it's good to know how to scream - when you're dealing with seaweed monsters! Victoria's screaming weakened Robson! ::waves her pompoms happily::
- HOLY CHRIST TWO 'S FLYING A HELICOPTER NOW?! I'm not sure if I should laugh or be in an extreme state of panic for Jamie & Victoria!
- O, Two. Helicopters aren't that easy you know! They aren't like a TARDIS!
- CHRIST! Two, freakin' FLY THE DAMN THING! Yes, now panicking for Jamie & Victoria. & o, poor Jamie - he's got to be freaking the fuck out now. He doesn't do well on these things as it is & now he's in one being piloted by a complete madman who has no idea how to fly or land! ::flails in a panicked way::
- WHOA. Well, he managed to land the helicopter, at least! & hopefully everyone's in one piece!
- Hee - now everyone wants Victoria to scream & she thinks it's silly! Victoria, it's NOT silly to scream at this moment, I promise!
- & miss Waterfield - & her screams - saved the day, didn't they? THAT could give a whole new meaning to being called a 'screamer', couldn't it?
- The way Two is so truly accepting of Victoria's wish to leave . . . it's very beautiful, but yes, deeply heartbreaking. Not his response to it - but her choice to leave. & Jamie not wanting to accept it - disintegrates just what's left of my heart.
- GODDAMMIT, JUST SAY IT, JAMIE. JUST TELL HER YOU LOVE HER, PLEASE! JUST SAY IT! Please, don't just dance around it - you love her. Say it.
- 'Jamie.'
'Yes?'
'You wouldn't go . . . without saying goodbye, would you?'
'Of course not. But that won't be til the morning anyway. Goodnight, Victoria.'
'Goodnight, Jamie.'
. . . . I know what I want to do with that. I finally do, despite the sadness & complete death of my heart during that final moment between the two of them.
- & even Victoria cries when she says goodbye to her friends for the final time.
& Jamie. He is just so heartbroken. He loved her, & if he could, he might have pleaded with her to stay. But he let her go, which . . . o, I can't even say it. It's too painful.
---------
Before I go into my heartbroken babble, I will say that this was a pretty good final story for Victoria. She was still as brave & amazing as always, despite her clear wishes to be done with the life she led with the Doctor & Jamie. & like I said before, this actually did make for a good audio, even though it's meant to be a serial. It still had power, despite it's total burnination! FTW.
& o, Victoria. She came home to her land of hope & gloria, a century & two years after she was forcibly taken from it. She saved the universe hundreds of times over, learnt her own limits & her own strength & bravery. I don't doubt that Victoria would have been happy in her new life, but I know it was a hard choice for her to make. But she made it, & never once hid her tears or her emotions about it.
land of hope and gloria, land of my Victoria . . .
Now, as we're about to enter into Zoe's era of Two's travels, I think it's as good a time to mention that when I get to The War Games, it will have its own separate post - it's ten serials long & I will not jam it all into a post with two other serials. It's a significant enough story to merit its own post & that's what I'll do with it.
Afterwards, I'll be recapping the two 'bonus' stories for the rewatch-athon - Spearhead in Space, which will bridge the gap between the end of Two's era & the beginning of Three's, & The Curse of Peladon, which had Patrick's son David as one of the main characters. Then we'll be back to the main stories for the rest of the rewatch-athon with The Three Doctors, The Five Doctors, The Two Doctors, Jamie's own Companion Chronicle Helicon Prime & the new series episode Midnight, which featured David Troughton as one of the leads!
(note: if I've worked out the serial order correctly, we'll have all three Pertwee-era stories done in a week.)
The Wheel in Space - audio & serial
Audio - episodes one through two
- Squeal! This one's being narrated by Wendy Padbury! ::bounces::
- Okay, the opening isn't making me feel any better about missing our Victoria.
- Um, uh-oh - FUCKERY! You manage to blow the fluid links TWICE, Two! But Two & Jamie run away together ARM & ARM!
- . . . Two pulled a One & made the TARDIS its actual size on the inside?
- Aww, he gave Jamie a lemon sherbet so he wouldn't be thirsty. ♥
- So . . . where are we? Rocket? Space station? Hmm.
- ::giggles at Jamie's incomprehensibility of Two & his technobabble::
- Okay, the Doctor seems to blow the TARDIS's fluid links a lot - or rather, he fucks them up a few times - he loses them in The Daleks, blows them here & also has difficulty with them in The Mind Robber - this can be useful, possibly.
- Jamie likes roast beef with all the trimmings - just like my girl Charley Pollard does!! ::high-fives Jamie:: & he likes fruit salad! Aww, Jamie. The boy certainly knows how to eat!
- Now they're discussing Victoria . . . he really misses her.
- Also, I think this is the first time that Two & Jamie have been on their own since the beginning of The Evil of the Daleks, which I find a bit sad, in a way. Not that they're alone together, but that it's only with Victoria's departure & entrance into the TARDIS can they ever be alone. I don't know - it's jut something that pulls at my mind a bit.
- Hmm - he opens a door without the sonic screwdriver this time. I suppose that at the time, the sonic screwdriver wasn't meant to be as . . . well, as all-powerful as it's become over the years. But that shows my own reliance & expectations of the Doctor's sonic screwdriver - I did somewhat expect him to use it to open the door.
- O, Jamie. ::draws a little heart:: He's keeping a close eye on Two - just like Two would have done for him.
- WAIT, WAIT! DON'T BLOW UP THE ROCKET! Doesn't anybody send search parties out to those things anymore?!
- AGH! ::sighs loudly & tosses her hair back in annoyance:: Could we NOT be blowing up things without inspecting them first, PLEASE?
- Aww. Jamie's trying to signal for help, but . . . well, no soap. I don't think it's meant to work like that, love . . .
- ::pushes a bit of hair away from Two's forehead:: O, poor Two. I'm a fair bit worried for him as well!
- WAIT A MINUTE, HOLD THE PHONE AND REWIND - JAMIE'S GOT HIS SHIRT OFF. Or at least unbuttoned . . . o, yesplz. & THEY BURNT THIS?! ::cries hard::
- Two's got a concussion - okay. Luckily, not a serious one. ::snuggles her favourite space beatnik::
- 'What about the medical? Do I pass?'
'You'll do. If it's any comfort to you, you're in fine physical shape.'
SAYS THE WOMAN WHO GOT HIS SHIRT OFF. I'm a child & just giggled a bit at that. He is in fine physical shape, I would say.
- Parapsychology! ::thumbs up::
- Hee - Zoe as a librarian - not what I'd describe her as, myself!
- LOLZ, I love Jamie's way of finding the parapsychology library. ::pets him::
- OMG SHE'S LAUGHING AT JAMIE'S KILT! & CALLING IT A SKIRT! & he threatens to give her a good smacking for itget in line, Jamie, love, I've got first claim there! - not sure who's the lucky one in that particular situation, Zoe or Jamie. ::giggles::
- Zoe's brain just boggles me. Even though in linguistic & in most literary matters, I can sound almost exactly like her. I do try not to, however. ::shy smile::
- & I do believe a certain metallic sort of race has just made its first appearance for this serial . . .
The Wheel in Space - episode three
- Moving into the first of the only two surviving parts of the story & I can't even begin to say how much I've missed being able to watch an episode properly.
- Hello there Jamie! Pretty outfit you have on - & you just got caught spraying quick-set plastic on some important equipment!
- FUCKERY, IT IS INDEED THE CYBERMEN. ::loves on them:: Oooo - their voices are a bit different from when I last heard them back in Tomb of the Cybermen.
- CYBERMATS! No, no, I wouldn't advise touching them, really, I wouldn't . . . ::sigh::
- ::giggle:: Aww, little marital bickerbickerbicker moment. (I think you could do a drinking game with how many bickerbickerbicker moments Two & Jamie have, really, you could) & yay, Two's up & about again! Well, okay, maybe not up & about, but at least he's conscious!
Umf, Pat, how on EARTH can you be so sexy when you're not even really DOING anything? I WANT TO KNOW.
- I haven't mentioned it yet, but Tanya's very pretty. She looks a little like Isobel from The Invasion, I think.
- I love how Zoe just shrugs off more or less being insulted & being called heartless. I wish I could do that. But I guess I'm not enough of a proper little brainchild.
- Hey, seriously, get away from the Cybermat. That's not a suggestion, that's an ORDER.
- O MY WORD, WE HAVE A SECOND DOCTOR WITH AN UNDONE SHIRT IN THE MEDICAL ROOM.DAMN YOU MONOCHROME SHOWS, I WANT THIS IN COLOUR! Hmm. Well, if they had to burn Jamie's physical, at least they saved Two's, more or less. THEY SHOULD HAVE SAVED BOTH GODDAMMIT! & Pat? STOP BEING SO SEXY WHEN YOU'RE DOING TOTALLY NOTHING BUT SITTING THERE! You're making this girl a bit crazy!
Ooo, now he's buttoning back up - still sexy, people!
(& yes I may have rewound that whole part just to watch it a second time. ::fans self::)
- HEE! Jamie & Zoe's big brother-little sister relationship is already starting up!
- 'Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority.'
Two > Zoe. & I love that gal!
- Something else about the Cybermen in this serial - they look considerably different than they did the last time I saw them in The Tomb of the Cybermen - it's the eyes, I think. Smaller. The face overall is much smaller & more different - & it's a bit more discomforting to see, honestly.
- AAAAAAND the Cybermats begin to attack. BUT WAIT! The quick-set plastic Jamie used is still handy! But no, that doesn't save anyone from a Cybermat attack.
- Two: is continuing to pwn Zoe. & I DO love this girl, I love her madly, but Two >>>>>> Zoe for now. ::grins::
- 'Simple common sense works wonders, sometimes, Zoe.'
::Zoe looks at Jamie::
'Well at least you didn't think of x-rays. That'd have been awful.'
LOLZ! Aww, my lovely Zoe-girl.
- Am I the only one who thinks that Tanya looks a little like Catherine Deneuve? Polly also looked a bit like her too, at least from Catherine's film Repulsion. (great film, by the way, everyone who likes suspense & slightly scary films should see it.) But she sort of does - a space-age Catherine Deneuve, perhaps. ::grins::
Audio - episodes four through five
- Moving back into audio for the middle half . . . the Cybermen have found a way into the wheel. By way of controlling the crew members sent to investigate the rocket.
- & now, Two's being awesome & giving us a history of the Cybermen. Thankyou, Doctor! ::beams:: Needed that lesson, actually.
- Space sickness . . . o, a form of space dementia! [/Zoe voice] As a sidebar, there are many forms of space dementia, you know; it isn't always a case of madness due to prolonged living in outer space. It takes at least four different forms, both benevolent & malevolent.
- Hmm . . . is it not possible that part of . . . whatever that component for the laser that Two speaks of contains some form of radiation? That's the only idea I have - Cybermen are adverse to radiation, so if they plan on taking over the wheel, & if there's any onboard, that would have to be the first thing to go before they arrived.
- Aww, Jamie's learning about the technology of analogue recording - or rather, the concept of tape recorders! ::laughs:: His confusion is so cute.
- It may be a useless & pointless observation to make, but Cybermen have clearly no sense of honour - killing a man by shooting him in the back. How cowardly. Useless an observation as it is, it's still true & it still disgusts me. ::glares::
- O, Zoe. Her sadness - & that's what it is - about not being able to feel, & her worry that she'll never be able to feel anything says a lot about her, I think. When I listened to that (I'm replaying that bit now), I immediately likened her to a Cyberman, because people think of her as having no emotion, or being able to feel, even though, from what she says to Gemma, she can. In a way, Zoe is a bit like a Cyberman when we first meet her - not physically, or in her ideology, but in her almost emotionally dead state. But at the same time, she seems to, to take my Zoe-being-a-bit-like-a-Cyberman analogy a little further, if I may, be rebelling against her training.
She reminds me a bit of Kroton, actually. To quickly & I do mean quickly, explain who Kroton is, he's a Cyberman who became a companion to the Eighth Doctor & his companion Izzy Sinclair in Eight's comic stories. He retained his emotions & ability to feel after being converted & wound up saving both Eight & Izzy from space pirates, even after Eight almost killed him. He was basically a good, kind, friend of a Cyberman. & Zoe, in her desire to feel & to have emotions, reminds me a bit of Kroton.
& considering how Zoe was raised, & what she was raised to be, it seems very fitting that her introduction story should involve Cybermen.
(now I'm even realising how Victoria's first official serial as a companion involved Cybermen & Zoe's debut serial involves them as well. Probably just a coincidence, but it's another thing to tug at my mind for a while.)
- ::shudders:: The Cybermen have managed to disable the wheel's communication systems & have already killed twice. This is really, really not a good thing.
- 'I was trained to believe logic and calculation would provide me with all the answers. Well, I'm just beginning to realise there are questions which I can't answer.'
'You're just not trained for an emergency like this.'
'Well, that's the whole point - what good am I? I've been created for some false kind of existence, where only known kinds of emergencies are catered for. Well, what good is that to me now?'
'Hey. We're not done yet, you know.'
'And if we survive? What then, Jamie? Suppose we do get ourselves out of this mess. What have I got left? A blind reliance on facts and logic.'
I love her. ::hugs Zoe::
(I think Zoe is a lot like River Tam in this way - an absolute genius, or rather, what River could have been, if it were not for her madness & her brain having been picked apart by hands that should not have played with human physiology like that. But Zoe, I think, is just as much the prodigy that River is, but with all of her brain & more. What was taken from River, Zoe has, & what River is left with, Zoe had removed. But, like River learnt to pull herself together when she needed to, when people truly needed her, Zoe's learning that she can feel & that she can be a real girl with a real heart. Or at least, something to that effect - this is still a concept & an idea that I need to work out more fully in my head)
- So the Cybermen caused the explosion of the star as part of the way to get into the wheel? They can do that? Blow stars up?
- ::clings to poor, scared Jamie:: Even in the middle of a Cyberman invasion, they STILL have adorable moments of bickerbickerbicker! But still, I'm going to worry for him likewhoa.
- GEMMA! NO! They just shot her down - in cold blood! (if the Cybermen HAD blood, mind you - it would be cold as ice.)
The Wheel in Space - episode six
- For the final instalment, we'll be going back to the only other surviving part of this serial & several VERY ugly meteorites are headed right for Jamie & Zoe! However, the wheel's been able to blast them away from Jamie & Zoe.
- 'But anyway, we're all going to be killed shortly unless you switch over to sexual air supply!'
Yeah. I'm twelve. So what? I didn't even BOTHER to cross that out because THAT IS JUST WHAT HE SAYS. & no, I never fail to crack up at that bit. SO? It's a CLASSIC bit of the Troughton era & I refuse to recap this episode without mentioning it.
Switching over to sexual air supply could be fun anyway. I'd not mind sharing it with Two. ::wiggles toes::
- O FUCK MAN, WATCHING A CYBERMAN THROW A HUMAN AROUND LIKE THAT IS FUCKING SCARY.
- Aww, Jamie & Zoe's first adventure together. & they're so very brother & sister already. I love it.
- You know, I think the relationship between Tanya & Leo is really cute. It's so obvious how much they care for each other, but it never gets in the way of the main story. It's lovely.
- Now I'm going to be really, really shallow for a moment (o, what, like I wasn't earlier?) & just say that Zoe? Has a very nice backside, even without the glitter to adorn it! Seriously. Couldn't help but sneak a glance or two when she was out of her spacesuit.
-UMF TWO. ::tackles him to the floor:: Two's so cute when he looks a bit scared - almost like a little rabbit. & I ♥ how he plays for time when the Cybermen are right in front of him. TWO >>>>>>>>>>>>>> EVERYTHING. (except Jamie. But Jamie's totally in a class by himself, so there. ::grins::)
- The shot of all those ghostly looking Cybermen is pretty chilly. ::shivers:: & the way they can just walk out in space totally unfettered is even more scary. I'd like to see a Cybus!Cyberman try & top that!
- Jamie in his space suit is both cute & giggle-worthy. It looks like he's preparing to do some serious extreme sporting in it.
- 'Well, look, Zoe - we won't forget you.'
::sniffles & slaps Jamie for that::
- ::grins:: Miss Zoe Heriot - you just sneaked onboard the TARDIS! For that, I salute you. ♥
- Two, why are you wearing Sailor Mars' tiara? Take that off, you silly silly man! ::giggles::
- & he shows Zoe a Dalek. A Dalek doing what it does best - killing someone. (in Victoria's first serial, no less.) But I have a feeling she'll still want to stay on. 'cause she's awesome like that.
---------
I may be a bit biased, because Zoe was the first Two-era companion I ever met, but I have to say, her introduction serial is a really good one. Of course, with Cybermen, Two & Jamie being awesome on their own & Zoe being pretty damn fab herself all makes for a great serial! & of course, this serial has lots of little bits in it that I positively & randomly adore & one of the best little LOLZ-worthy dialogue bits of the Troughton era which I have never recovered from since I first heard it, thankyouverymuch. Basically, it's just a great serial! What more's a girl gotta say?
& I have to say, I really love Wendy Padbury's narration of the story - I wish I could have heard her do more narration of her lost stories!
(O, one more thing . . . after viewing this serial, or rather, listening to it & watching it in its entirety, I . . . could actually ship Zoe with Two. No, really, I could. In fact, I think he's the only person I could ship her with & not have the O____o kind of face. If it's Jamie/Zoe, I'm like HELL NO, CAN'T READ IT, PLZ GET IT AWAY FROM MY PERSON THANKS, but Two/Zoe . . . I could give it a try. If it's good, of course! But I don't know . . . he's the only one I could see her actually having a romantic sort of relationship with, really. Jamie's too much like her big brother for me to be able to ship them, you see.)
& our final story for the week, Zoe Heriot's own Companion Chronicle, Fear of the Daleks.
Fear of the Daleks
- CHRIST, DALEKS! Okay, THAT was a good way to freak me the fuck out as soon as I started this audio!
- I think the beginning of Zoe's story is just beautiful. It's sad, yes, but also very beautifully said at the same time.
- Already, this audio makes me terribly sad. It makes me sad because it makes me feel like I'm looking long into the future after The War Games & how clearly the Time Lords fucked up her memory erasing. & I know I'm not ready to see that yet.
- A domed, habituated asteroid? I immediately thought of The Jetsons when Zoe said that. Actually, that's sort of what I keep seeing when she describes the city.
- Cinnamon fish! ::laughs::
- The Doctor had not heard of either race and that surprised me. 'I thought you knew everything.'
He was practical in his humility. 'If I knew everything, Zoe, what would be left to discover?'
- Two's calm = amazingly awesome. ♥♥
- 'Why thank you - probably!'
::gigglesnorts::
- Um, Two's panic over the possibility of the Daleks still being - or being - around gives me total chills.
- Why - why does anyone want to try to form an alliance with Daleks? Daleks . . . they're no better than ninety-nine point nine percent of Cybermen - they want to kill & destroy. They don't make deals!
- BACK THIS THE FUCK UP - they want to make Zoe an assassin?
THEY WANT TO MAKE ZOE AN ASSASSIN?
. . . . that is exactly, for those of you who don't know (though I think most of you will), what was attempted to be done on River Tam - but the process of stripping her brain down in places left her a raving lunatic - with psychic abilities & an assassin's training. Zoe's not psychic, but her brain, or at least, what's been done to it, seems to be a less damaging form of what was done to River's. (but I don't think Zoe's brain was operated on.)
- A codeword to activate Zoe as an assassin?
That's what they did to River - how they drew her out in Serenity - but with subliminal messages, as opposed to a codeword. When she saw them, she went on a killing spree, more or less.
- I'm not surprised that the scientific aspects of this fascinate Zoe - it fascinates me as well, though I'm not nearly as well-versed in scientific matters as she is.
- 'Speaking of sartorial lapses - be quiet, skirt boy!'
'I'll give you skirt boy!'
O no. You don't go about calling Jamie's kilt a skirt & expect to live! That's like throwing rocks at Leela & expecting not to get shanked.
- The way they've taken over Zoe's mind - it's making me think so much of River & what they did to her brain. It's frightening & rather upsetting at once.
- O, Zoe.
- O goddammit . . . Daleks. O my word . . . they're coming for the Doctor!
- 'Stowaway', I sighed. Not again.
- This story . . . it makes me terribly sad, but keeps me fascinated at the same time. It just makes me . . . well, very sad, because I keep thinking of River Tam & that this is what she could have become, if Simon had not intervened & saved her life. But Zoe . . . she's being controlled, & the Doctor & Jamie can't help her.
- O MY WORD! The Daleks . . . they've arrived in the laboratory.
- NO, NO, YOU CAN'T EXTERMINATE HIM!
- O, Two. ::breathes heavily:: You're insanely fast-thinking! & HA! I don't blame him for being pissed off by having his brain called 'acceptable' - YOU SILLY METAL PEPPERPOTS, THE DOCTOR'S BRAIN IS BETTER THAN YOURS ON HIS WORST DAY!
- 'INSOLENCE INVITES EXTERMINATION.'
Okay, not even going to lie - I actually made some kind of verbal wibble-noise when I heard that. That truly scared me, okay? It sounded frighteningly like something from The Natural History of Fear audio & that audio scares the living hell out of me.
- ::clings to Two:: Why are you so brave, Doctor? ::sniffle:: (& how can I be so brave?!)
- ::headdesks:: Seriously - anyone dumb enough to try & make deals, bargains or alliances with Daleks or Cybermen? Just get yourself exterminated or killed - FAST! You're polluting your species' gene pool, you know.
- ::clings to Two even harder:: ItotallykindoflovehimbutI'mtotallyfreakingoutforhim.
- BLOW THAT - THE DOCTOR'S MIND IS BETTER & STRONGER THAN ANY OF YOURS!
- O . . . Zoe, Zoe, Zoe. ::cries::
- O, TWO! ::collapses:: He's got her, & he can protect her now.
- NO! YOU LAY ANY OF YOUR HANDS ON JAMIE & TWO WILL LET THE DALEKS KILL YOU.
- Daleks can't be bargained with, you fools. Not now, not then, not ever. IT WOULD DO THE UNIVERSE WELL TO LEARN SUCH A LESSON.
- O god . . . being inside the mind of a Dalek . . . I can't imagine anything more horrifying to experience, psychically. Reavers & Daleks . . . their minds are the most frightening places a psychic could be. If you could even look inside one without going completely insane on the spot.
- A Dalek asking for the Doctor to exterminate them . . . & his refusal. His refusal to exterminate the Daleks. It's almost like Four in Genesis of the Daleks - how he refuses to destroy the Dalek embryos because it would make him no better than the Daleks, & Sarah Jane insisting that he do it . . . just what Zoe does, but Sarah Jane wasn't holding the wires.
- ::breathes slowly:: Jamie saved their lives. Jamie, Jamie, Jamie . . . ♥♥♥ Which makes this audio even more heart-wrenching to hear.
- & Zoe after telling her story . . . she can remember. Just a little, can't she? It's so small - but it can give one hope that maybe the Time Lords weren't as thorough at memory wiping as one might think.
(&nentari, I tried not to, but I wound up thinking something a little similar like what you mentioned in the end. Different form, though.)
---------
That was definitely a great entry in the Companion Chronicles, I think. It was sad & beautiful & a little hopeful in the end - & of course, quite a thrilling adventure in itself! & there were even moments where I had to try really hard not to cry. It also had shades of Firefly & Serenity to it, I think, which is even more wonderful, though it was those that made me sad.
& the ending . . . it gave me hope for Zoe, that maybe she can remember. Just like the ending of Serenity always gives me hope that River can take care of herself, & begin to mend over time. The only differences between the two are that Zoe's ending is still very heartbreaking, while River's isn't, so much.
Also, I loved hearing Wendy Padbury's narration again! I hope Zoe gets a second story - I know Jamie's second one is coming out in August (!!!), so maybe there's hope for a second story for Zoe?
::fireworks pop off:: Those are our serial recaps for the week! Next week I'll be covering The Dominators, The Mind Robber (which was my first Two-era serial ever, so that'll be a fun exercise in nostalgia for me!) & my second favourite serial of the Troughton era, The Invasion. Plus, I'll be getting back to watching things, as opposed to listening to them again! Which is, of course, the most fun in doing a rewatch-athon. ::beams::
Previous recaps
The Dalek Invasion of Earth
The Time Meddler
The War Machines
The Smugglers
The Tenth Planet
The Power of the Daleks
The Highlanders
The Underwater Menace
The Moonbase
The Macra Terror
The Faceless Ones
The Evil of the Daleks
The Evil of the Daleks - audio version
Tomb of the Cybermen
The Great Space Elevator (Victoria's Companion Chronicle)
The Abominable Snowmen - audio & serial
The Ice Warriors - audio
The Enemy of the World - audio & serial
The Web of Fear - audio & serial
wordsindreams showed me. THERE ARE PRACTICALLY NO WORDS TO DESCRIBE HOW DAMN BAD I THINK I WANT THAT SHIRT. I mean, even Sara Kingdom gets a mention! ::bounces:: IT'S AWESOME!
So this week's serial set . . . it's kind of series of endings & beginnings. We have Victoria's final serial (which I cried a bit during), Zoe's first adventure with Two & Jamie, & her post-War Games Companion Chronicle. This week was a bit depressing like that, but next week, it'll be much better, promise!
So, without further ado, let's begin with Fury From the Deep - the last serial for the lady Victoria Waterfield.
Fury From the Deep - audio
- Aww, Two, Jamie & Victoria in a boat! ::laughs:: Isn't that cute!
- LOLZ NOW THEY'RE PLAYING WITH FOAM! ::gigglesnorts:: How adorable! I can just see the three of them having a grand foam fight on the ocean!
- The image of Two, Jamie & Victoria on a beach is actually very cute. It would make a lovely picture, I think.
- HOLY SHIT THE FIRST APPEARANCE OF THE SONIC SCREWDRIVER!! Two made the sonic screwdriver what it is, bitches! DON'T YOU EVER FORGET!
- O GOD THEY JUST SHOT TWO! ::screams:: & JAMIE & VICTORIA! WHAT THE FUCK?!
- ::pets Two:: He doesn't sound very well, the poor love.
(& I'm giggling a bit at how cute Pat sounds just now. Hee!)
- Jamie's remark about always getting locked up makes me think of C'rizz saying 'What is it with the TARDIS and prisons lately?' in the audio Memory Lane.
- Harris seems a very gentle person, I think - almost apologetic for his superior's actions. He's quite kind, I would say.
- LOLZ, Victoria picks a lock with a hairpin & Jamie just falls out into a corridor! Victoria = T E H AWESOME.
- ::sighs heavily at Two for being so overprotective of Victoria::
- HA! But Victoria's not staying behind just because she's a 'mere girl' - she'll do her own exploring, thankyouverymuch!
- ACK, GAS-MASK WEARING CREATURES! ::dives under bed::
- Miss Waterfield, who did teach you to pick locks like that? ::grins:: Or is that just been a secret you've been hiding from everyone until now?
- EEK, LIVING FOAM!
- O, the idea of Victoria's screaming just multiplying itself all over the refinery - that's a rather scary thought to me. I would be so afraid of never being found, if my screaming kept echoing like that.
- ::hugs Victoria tightly::
- Living, breathing, possibly killer foam . . . this is getting rather creepy now.
- Okay, getting slight shivers down my spine at the idea of people who are part people, part seaweed.
- I have to say, even though this was meant to be a serial, it works really well with just the audio, at least from my point of view. I don't know how terrifying it would be if I were watching it, or a recon of it, but as an audio, it's pretty spooky in places. Actual chills up & down my spine & all over my arms.
& I know that this recap must seem very quiet & subdued for a serial-audio I've described as 'spooky', but I'm listening to it with a great deal of trepidation & discomfort, because I know part of how this will end. & I don't like it at all.
- & the seaweed-people can turn others into seaweed-people? Hmmm.
- O, Victoria's showing her science skills! ::squeals:: & for that matter, so is Jamie! I ♥ it.
- For some reason, I'm highly amused as Two being described as an 'old man' & Jamie & Victoria as 'teenagers'. I actually never think of Two as old at all - I actually really don't.
- O goodness! IT'S VERY MUCH ALIVE! ::hides::
- Some of the music in this serial sounds a lot like the Jaws theme - just more electronic & technologically-minded. Which makes this serial-audio even more freaky - that music is pretty chilling on its own.
- JESUS WHAT IS WITH ALL THE BLOODY FOAM?! I'll never be able to take a bubble bath comfortably again.
- Poor Jamie. He nearly died from that gas, the poor love.
- O. O my. The ending is already starting. & I've already got a terrible knot in my stomach from it.
- Hmm. Jamie & Victoria are sharing a room. No, just saying 'hmm.'
(& guh, Jamie also has THE VOICE. brb, having the heart flutters.)
- I know, I should be saying something about Victoria. I know. But I can't. This - hearing how unhappy she is, is just breaking my heart. Her unhappiness makes me feel sick inside - she's so scared & she just wants to not be in danger constantly, or to be afraid all the time. I . . . I can sympathise with her, to a very tiny extent. & maybe that's part of why I can't say anything about her misery.
This serial, for a six-parter, feels like its going by so fast. It barely feels like a six-parter. & every moment, that knot gets bigger & bigger. I don't want this to end. It's become such that I barely notice what's happening in everything else; all I can notice & feel is how truly upset Victoria is.
- 'Victoria! Victoria . . . say something. No . . . no, you can't be dead. Victoria . . . if anything happened to you I'd never forgive myself.'
That? That was the sound of my heart literally snapping in two. Snapping in two, three, four, five - Jamie, stop it! ::bursts into tears:: You love her, & she can't take any of this life anymore & you still love her & it's BREAKING MY HEART.
I can't take very much more of this, I think. Victoria's breaking my heart, Jamie being so in love with her is killing me - fucksocks, the only person IN this damn story who hasn't broken me down yet is Two!
- Jamie & Victoria are splitting my heart right down the middle. I want this to end & I don't want it to end.
- JAMIE! That - JAMIE, GET AWAY FROM HIM! ::breathes:: O, you're alright, m'dear, you're alright.
- For someone who doesn't seem to do very well on flying machines, save for the TARDIS, Jamie certainly flies in a fair few of them!
- Okay, shallow moment: Jamie getting out of a helicopter = ALL THE MORE REASON WHY THIS SERIAL SHOULD HAVE SURVIVED, SRSLY, MAN.
- The one time it's good to know how to scream - when you're dealing with seaweed monsters! Victoria's screaming weakened Robson! ::waves her pompoms happily::
- HOLY CHRIST TWO 'S FLYING A HELICOPTER NOW?! I'm not sure if I should laugh or be in an extreme state of panic for Jamie & Victoria!
- O, Two. Helicopters aren't that easy you know! They aren't like a TARDIS!
- CHRIST! Two, freakin' FLY THE DAMN THING! Yes, now panicking for Jamie & Victoria. & o, poor Jamie - he's got to be freaking the fuck out now. He doesn't do well on these things as it is & now he's in one being piloted by a complete madman who has no idea how to fly or land! ::flails in a panicked way::
- WHOA. Well, he managed to land the helicopter, at least! & hopefully everyone's in one piece!
- Hee - now everyone wants Victoria to scream & she thinks it's silly! Victoria, it's NOT silly to scream at this moment, I promise!
- & miss Waterfield - & her screams - saved the day, didn't they? THAT could give a whole new meaning to being called a 'screamer', couldn't it?
- The way Two is so truly accepting of Victoria's wish to leave . . . it's very beautiful, but yes, deeply heartbreaking. Not his response to it - but her choice to leave. & Jamie not wanting to accept it - disintegrates just what's left of my heart.
- GODDAMMIT, JUST SAY IT, JAMIE. JUST TELL HER YOU LOVE HER, PLEASE! JUST SAY IT! Please, don't just dance around it - you love her. Say it.
- 'Jamie.'
'Yes?'
'You wouldn't go . . . without saying goodbye, would you?'
'Of course not. But that won't be til the morning anyway. Goodnight, Victoria.'
'Goodnight, Jamie.'
. . . . I know what I want to do with that. I finally do, despite the sadness & complete death of my heart during that final moment between the two of them.
- & even Victoria cries when she says goodbye to her friends for the final time.
& Jamie. He is just so heartbroken. He loved her, & if he could, he might have pleaded with her to stay. But he let her go, which . . . o, I can't even say it. It's too painful.
---------
Before I go into my heartbroken babble, I will say that this was a pretty good final story for Victoria. She was still as brave & amazing as always, despite her clear wishes to be done with the life she led with the Doctor & Jamie. & like I said before, this actually did make for a good audio, even though it's meant to be a serial. It still had power, despite it's total burnination! FTW.
& o, Victoria. She came home to her land of hope & gloria, a century & two years after she was forcibly taken from it. She saved the universe hundreds of times over, learnt her own limits & her own strength & bravery. I don't doubt that Victoria would have been happy in her new life, but I know it was a hard choice for her to make. But she made it, & never once hid her tears or her emotions about it.
land of hope and gloria, land of my Victoria . . .
Now, as we're about to enter into Zoe's era of Two's travels, I think it's as good a time to mention that when I get to The War Games, it will have its own separate post - it's ten serials long & I will not jam it all into a post with two other serials. It's a significant enough story to merit its own post & that's what I'll do with it.
Afterwards, I'll be recapping the two 'bonus' stories for the rewatch-athon - Spearhead in Space, which will bridge the gap between the end of Two's era & the beginning of Three's, & The Curse of Peladon, which had Patrick's son David as one of the main characters. Then we'll be back to the main stories for the rest of the rewatch-athon with The Three Doctors, The Five Doctors, The Two Doctors, Jamie's own Companion Chronicle Helicon Prime & the new series episode Midnight, which featured David Troughton as one of the leads!
(note: if I've worked out the serial order correctly, we'll have all three Pertwee-era stories done in a week.)
The Wheel in Space - audio & serial
Audio - episodes one through two
- Squeal! This one's being narrated by Wendy Padbury! ::bounces::
- Okay, the opening isn't making me feel any better about missing our Victoria.
- Um, uh-oh - FUCKERY! You manage to blow the fluid links TWICE, Two! But Two & Jamie run away together ARM & ARM!
- . . . Two pulled a One & made the TARDIS its actual size on the inside?
- Aww, he gave Jamie a lemon sherbet so he wouldn't be thirsty. ♥
- So . . . where are we? Rocket? Space station? Hmm.
- ::giggles at Jamie's incomprehensibility of Two & his technobabble::
- Okay, the Doctor seems to blow the TARDIS's fluid links a lot - or rather, he fucks them up a few times - he loses them in The Daleks, blows them here & also has difficulty with them in The Mind Robber - this can be useful, possibly.
- Jamie likes roast beef with all the trimmings - just like my girl Charley Pollard does!! ::high-fives Jamie:: & he likes fruit salad! Aww, Jamie. The boy certainly knows how to eat!
- Now they're discussing Victoria . . . he really misses her.
- Also, I think this is the first time that Two & Jamie have been on their own since the beginning of The Evil of the Daleks, which I find a bit sad, in a way. Not that they're alone together, but that it's only with Victoria's departure & entrance into the TARDIS can they ever be alone. I don't know - it's jut something that pulls at my mind a bit.
- Hmm - he opens a door without the sonic screwdriver this time. I suppose that at the time, the sonic screwdriver wasn't meant to be as . . . well, as all-powerful as it's become over the years. But that shows my own reliance & expectations of the Doctor's sonic screwdriver - I did somewhat expect him to use it to open the door.
- O, Jamie. ::draws a little heart:: He's keeping a close eye on Two - just like Two would have done for him.
- WAIT, WAIT! DON'T BLOW UP THE ROCKET! Doesn't anybody send search parties out to those things anymore?!
- AGH! ::sighs loudly & tosses her hair back in annoyance:: Could we NOT be blowing up things without inspecting them first, PLEASE?
- Aww. Jamie's trying to signal for help, but . . . well, no soap. I don't think it's meant to work like that, love . . .
- ::pushes a bit of hair away from Two's forehead:: O, poor Two. I'm a fair bit worried for him as well!
- WAIT A MINUTE, HOLD THE PHONE AND REWIND - JAMIE'S GOT HIS SHIRT OFF. Or at least unbuttoned . . . o, yesplz. & THEY BURNT THIS?! ::cries hard::
- Two's got a concussion - okay. Luckily, not a serious one. ::snuggles her favourite space beatnik::
- 'What about the medical? Do I pass?'
'You'll do. If it's any comfort to you, you're in fine physical shape.'
- Parapsychology! ::thumbs up::
- Hee - Zoe as a librarian - not what I'd describe her as, myself!
- LOLZ, I love Jamie's way of finding the parapsychology library. ::pets him::
- OMG SHE'S LAUGHING AT JAMIE'S KILT! & CALLING IT A SKIRT! & he threatens to give her a good smacking for it
- Zoe's brain just boggles me. Even though in linguistic & in most literary matters, I can sound almost exactly like her. I do try not to, however. ::shy smile::
- & I do believe a certain metallic sort of race has just made its first appearance for this serial . . .
The Wheel in Space - episode three
- Moving into the first of the only two surviving parts of the story & I can't even begin to say how much I've missed being able to watch an episode properly.
- Hello there Jamie! Pretty outfit you have on - & you just got caught spraying quick-set plastic on some important equipment!
- FUCKERY, IT IS INDEED THE CYBERMEN. ::loves on them:: Oooo - their voices are a bit different from when I last heard them back in Tomb of the Cybermen.
- CYBERMATS! No, no, I wouldn't advise touching them, really, I wouldn't . . . ::sigh::
- ::giggle:: Aww, little marital bickerbickerbicker moment. (I think you could do a drinking game with how many bickerbickerbicker moments Two & Jamie have, really, you could) & yay, Two's up & about again! Well, okay, maybe not up & about, but at least he's conscious!
- I haven't mentioned it yet, but Tanya's very pretty. She looks a little like Isobel from The Invasion, I think.
- I love how Zoe just shrugs off more or less being insulted & being called heartless. I wish I could do that. But I guess I'm not enough of a proper little brainchild.
- Hey, seriously, get away from the Cybermat. That's not a suggestion, that's an ORDER.
- O MY WORD, WE HAVE A SECOND DOCTOR WITH AN UNDONE SHIRT IN THE MEDICAL ROOM.
Ooo, now he's buttoning back up - still sexy, people!
(& yes I may have rewound that whole part just to watch it a second time. ::fans self::)
- HEE! Jamie & Zoe's big brother-little sister relationship is already starting up!
- 'Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority.'
Two > Zoe. & I love that gal!
- Something else about the Cybermen in this serial - they look considerably different than they did the last time I saw them in The Tomb of the Cybermen - it's the eyes, I think. Smaller. The face overall is much smaller & more different - & it's a bit more discomforting to see, honestly.
- AAAAAAND the Cybermats begin to attack. BUT WAIT! The quick-set plastic Jamie used is still handy! But no, that doesn't save anyone from a Cybermat attack.
- Two: is continuing to pwn Zoe. & I DO love this girl, I love her madly, but Two >>>>>> Zoe for now. ::grins::
- 'Simple common sense works wonders, sometimes, Zoe.'
::Zoe looks at Jamie::
'Well at least you didn't think of x-rays. That'd have been awful.'
LOLZ! Aww, my lovely Zoe-girl.
- Am I the only one who thinks that Tanya looks a little like Catherine Deneuve? Polly also looked a bit like her too, at least from Catherine's film Repulsion. (great film, by the way, everyone who likes suspense & slightly scary films should see it.) But she sort of does - a space-age Catherine Deneuve, perhaps. ::grins::
Audio - episodes four through five
- Moving back into audio for the middle half . . . the Cybermen have found a way into the wheel. By way of controlling the crew members sent to investigate the rocket.
- & now, Two's being awesome & giving us a history of the Cybermen. Thankyou, Doctor! ::beams:: Needed that lesson, actually.
- Space sickness . . . o, a form of space dementia! [/Zoe voice] As a sidebar, there are many forms of space dementia, you know; it isn't always a case of madness due to prolonged living in outer space. It takes at least four different forms, both benevolent & malevolent.
- Hmm . . . is it not possible that part of . . . whatever that component for the laser that Two speaks of contains some form of radiation? That's the only idea I have - Cybermen are adverse to radiation, so if they plan on taking over the wheel, & if there's any onboard, that would have to be the first thing to go before they arrived.
- Aww, Jamie's learning about the technology of analogue recording - or rather, the concept of tape recorders! ::laughs:: His confusion is so cute.
- It may be a useless & pointless observation to make, but Cybermen have clearly no sense of honour - killing a man by shooting him in the back. How cowardly. Useless an observation as it is, it's still true & it still disgusts me. ::glares::
- O, Zoe. Her sadness - & that's what it is - about not being able to feel, & her worry that she'll never be able to feel anything says a lot about her, I think. When I listened to that (I'm replaying that bit now), I immediately likened her to a Cyberman, because people think of her as having no emotion, or being able to feel, even though, from what she says to Gemma, she can. In a way, Zoe is a bit like a Cyberman when we first meet her - not physically, or in her ideology, but in her almost emotionally dead state. But at the same time, she seems to, to take my Zoe-being-a-bit-like-a-Cyberman analogy a little further, if I may, be rebelling against her training.
She reminds me a bit of Kroton, actually. To quickly & I do mean quickly, explain who Kroton is, he's a Cyberman who became a companion to the Eighth Doctor & his companion Izzy Sinclair in Eight's comic stories. He retained his emotions & ability to feel after being converted & wound up saving both Eight & Izzy from space pirates, even after Eight almost killed him. He was basically a good, kind, friend of a Cyberman. & Zoe, in her desire to feel & to have emotions, reminds me a bit of Kroton.
& considering how Zoe was raised, & what she was raised to be, it seems very fitting that her introduction story should involve Cybermen.
(now I'm even realising how Victoria's first official serial as a companion involved Cybermen & Zoe's debut serial involves them as well. Probably just a coincidence, but it's another thing to tug at my mind for a while.)
- ::shudders:: The Cybermen have managed to disable the wheel's communication systems & have already killed twice. This is really, really not a good thing.
- 'I was trained to believe logic and calculation would provide me with all the answers. Well, I'm just beginning to realise there are questions which I can't answer.'
'You're just not trained for an emergency like this.'
'Well, that's the whole point - what good am I? I've been created for some false kind of existence, where only known kinds of emergencies are catered for. Well, what good is that to me now?'
'Hey. We're not done yet, you know.'
'And if we survive? What then, Jamie? Suppose we do get ourselves out of this mess. What have I got left? A blind reliance on facts and logic.'
I love her. ::hugs Zoe::
(I think Zoe is a lot like River Tam in this way - an absolute genius, or rather, what River could have been, if it were not for her madness & her brain having been picked apart by hands that should not have played with human physiology like that. But Zoe, I think, is just as much the prodigy that River is, but with all of her brain & more. What was taken from River, Zoe has, & what River is left with, Zoe had removed. But, like River learnt to pull herself together when she needed to, when people truly needed her, Zoe's learning that she can feel & that she can be a real girl with a real heart. Or at least, something to that effect - this is still a concept & an idea that I need to work out more fully in my head)
- So the Cybermen caused the explosion of the star as part of the way to get into the wheel? They can do that? Blow stars up?
- ::clings to poor, scared Jamie:: Even in the middle of a Cyberman invasion, they STILL have adorable moments of bickerbickerbicker! But still, I'm going to worry for him likewhoa.
- GEMMA! NO! They just shot her down - in cold blood! (if the Cybermen HAD blood, mind you - it would be cold as ice.)
The Wheel in Space - episode six
- For the final instalment, we'll be going back to the only other surviving part of this serial & several VERY ugly meteorites are headed right for Jamie & Zoe! However, the wheel's been able to blast them away from Jamie & Zoe.
- 'But anyway, we're all going to be killed shortly unless you switch over to sexual air supply!'
- O FUCK MAN, WATCHING A CYBERMAN THROW A HUMAN AROUND LIKE THAT IS FUCKING SCARY.
- Aww, Jamie & Zoe's first adventure together. & they're so very brother & sister already. I love it.
- You know, I think the relationship between Tanya & Leo is really cute. It's so obvious how much they care for each other, but it never gets in the way of the main story. It's lovely.
- Now I'm going to be really, really shallow for a moment (o, what, like I wasn't earlier?) & just say that Zoe? Has a very nice backside, even without the glitter to adorn it! Seriously. Couldn't help but sneak a glance or two when she was out of her spacesuit.
-
- The shot of all those ghostly looking Cybermen is pretty chilly. ::shivers:: & the way they can just walk out in space totally unfettered is even more scary. I'd like to see a Cybus!Cyberman try & top that!
- Jamie in his space suit is both cute & giggle-worthy. It looks like he's preparing to do some serious extreme sporting in it.
- 'Well, look, Zoe - we won't forget you.'
::sniffles & slaps Jamie for that::
- ::grins:: Miss Zoe Heriot - you just sneaked onboard the TARDIS! For that, I salute you. ♥
- Two, why are you wearing Sailor Mars' tiara? Take that off, you silly silly man! ::giggles::
- & he shows Zoe a Dalek. A Dalek doing what it does best - killing someone. (in Victoria's first serial, no less.) But I have a feeling she'll still want to stay on. 'cause she's awesome like that.
---------
I may be a bit biased, because Zoe was the first Two-era companion I ever met, but I have to say, her introduction serial is a really good one. Of course, with Cybermen, Two & Jamie being awesome on their own & Zoe being pretty damn fab herself all makes for a great serial! & of course, this serial has lots of little bits in it that I positively & randomly adore & one of the best little LOLZ-worthy dialogue bits of the Troughton era which I have never recovered from since I first heard it, thankyouverymuch. Basically, it's just a great serial! What more's a girl gotta say?
& I have to say, I really love Wendy Padbury's narration of the story - I wish I could have heard her do more narration of her lost stories!
(O, one more thing . . . after viewing this serial, or rather, listening to it & watching it in its entirety, I . . . could actually ship Zoe with Two. No, really, I could. In fact, I think he's the only person I could ship her with & not have the O____o kind of face. If it's Jamie/Zoe, I'm like HELL NO, CAN'T READ IT, PLZ GET IT AWAY FROM MY PERSON THANKS, but Two/Zoe . . . I could give it a try. If it's good, of course! But I don't know . . . he's the only one I could see her actually having a romantic sort of relationship with, really. Jamie's too much like her big brother for me to be able to ship them, you see.)
& our final story for the week, Zoe Heriot's own Companion Chronicle, Fear of the Daleks.
Fear of the Daleks
- CHRIST, DALEKS! Okay, THAT was a good way to freak me the fuck out as soon as I started this audio!
- I think the beginning of Zoe's story is just beautiful. It's sad, yes, but also very beautifully said at the same time.
- Already, this audio makes me terribly sad. It makes me sad because it makes me feel like I'm looking long into the future after The War Games & how clearly the Time Lords fucked up her memory erasing. & I know I'm not ready to see that yet.
- A domed, habituated asteroid? I immediately thought of The Jetsons when Zoe said that. Actually, that's sort of what I keep seeing when she describes the city.
- Cinnamon fish! ::laughs::
- The Doctor had not heard of either race and that surprised me. 'I thought you knew everything.'
He was practical in his humility. 'If I knew everything, Zoe, what would be left to discover?'
- Two's calm = amazingly awesome. ♥♥
- 'Why thank you - probably!'
::gigglesnorts::
- Um, Two's panic over the possibility of the Daleks still being - or being - around gives me total chills.
- Why - why does anyone want to try to form an alliance with Daleks? Daleks . . . they're no better than ninety-nine point nine percent of Cybermen - they want to kill & destroy. They don't make deals!
- BACK THIS THE FUCK UP - they want to make Zoe an assassin?
THEY WANT TO MAKE ZOE AN ASSASSIN?
. . . . that is exactly, for those of you who don't know (though I think most of you will), what was attempted to be done on River Tam - but the process of stripping her brain down in places left her a raving lunatic - with psychic abilities & an assassin's training. Zoe's not psychic, but her brain, or at least, what's been done to it, seems to be a less damaging form of what was done to River's. (but I don't think Zoe's brain was operated on.)
- A codeword to activate Zoe as an assassin?
That's what they did to River - how they drew her out in Serenity - but with subliminal messages, as opposed to a codeword. When she saw them, she went on a killing spree, more or less.
- I'm not surprised that the scientific aspects of this fascinate Zoe - it fascinates me as well, though I'm not nearly as well-versed in scientific matters as she is.
- 'Speaking of sartorial lapses - be quiet, skirt boy!'
'I'll give you skirt boy!'
O no. You don't go about calling Jamie's kilt a skirt & expect to live! That's like throwing rocks at Leela & expecting not to get shanked.
- The way they've taken over Zoe's mind - it's making me think so much of River & what they did to her brain. It's frightening & rather upsetting at once.
- O, Zoe.
- O goddammit . . . Daleks. O my word . . . they're coming for the Doctor!
- 'Stowaway', I sighed. Not again.
- This story . . . it makes me terribly sad, but keeps me fascinated at the same time. It just makes me . . . well, very sad, because I keep thinking of River Tam & that this is what she could have become, if Simon had not intervened & saved her life. But Zoe . . . she's being controlled, & the Doctor & Jamie can't help her.
- O MY WORD! The Daleks . . . they've arrived in the laboratory.
- NO, NO, YOU CAN'T EXTERMINATE HIM!
- O, Two. ::breathes heavily:: You're insanely fast-thinking! & HA! I don't blame him for being pissed off by having his brain called 'acceptable' - YOU SILLY METAL PEPPERPOTS, THE DOCTOR'S BRAIN IS BETTER THAN YOURS ON HIS WORST DAY!
- 'INSOLENCE INVITES EXTERMINATION.'
Okay, not even going to lie - I actually made some kind of verbal wibble-noise when I heard that. That truly scared me, okay? It sounded frighteningly like something from The Natural History of Fear audio & that audio scares the living hell out of me.
- ::clings to Two:: Why are you so brave, Doctor? ::sniffle:: (& how can I be so brave?!)
- ::headdesks:: Seriously - anyone dumb enough to try & make deals, bargains or alliances with Daleks or Cybermen? Just get yourself exterminated or killed - FAST! You're polluting your species' gene pool, you know.
- ::clings to Two even harder:: ItotallykindoflovehimbutI'mtotallyfreakingoutforhim.
- BLOW THAT - THE DOCTOR'S MIND IS BETTER & STRONGER THAN ANY OF YOURS!
- O . . . Zoe, Zoe, Zoe. ::cries::
- O, TWO! ::collapses:: He's got her, & he can protect her now.
- NO! YOU LAY ANY OF YOUR HANDS ON JAMIE & TWO WILL LET THE DALEKS KILL YOU.
- Daleks can't be bargained with, you fools. Not now, not then, not ever. IT WOULD DO THE UNIVERSE WELL TO LEARN SUCH A LESSON.
- O god . . . being inside the mind of a Dalek . . . I can't imagine anything more horrifying to experience, psychically. Reavers & Daleks . . . their minds are the most frightening places a psychic could be. If you could even look inside one without going completely insane on the spot.
- A Dalek asking for the Doctor to exterminate them . . . & his refusal. His refusal to exterminate the Daleks. It's almost like Four in Genesis of the Daleks - how he refuses to destroy the Dalek embryos because it would make him no better than the Daleks, & Sarah Jane insisting that he do it . . . just what Zoe does, but Sarah Jane wasn't holding the wires.
- ::breathes slowly:: Jamie saved their lives. Jamie, Jamie, Jamie . . . ♥♥♥ Which makes this audio even more heart-wrenching to hear.
- & Zoe after telling her story . . . she can remember. Just a little, can't she? It's so small - but it can give one hope that maybe the Time Lords weren't as thorough at memory wiping as one might think.
(&
nentari, I tried not to, but I wound up thinking something a little similar like what you mentioned in the end. Different form, though.)---------
That was definitely a great entry in the Companion Chronicles, I think. It was sad & beautiful & a little hopeful in the end - & of course, quite a thrilling adventure in itself! & there were even moments where I had to try really hard not to cry. It also had shades of Firefly & Serenity to it, I think, which is even more wonderful, though it was those that made me sad.
& the ending . . . it gave me hope for Zoe, that maybe she can remember. Just like the ending of Serenity always gives me hope that River can take care of herself, & begin to mend over time. The only differences between the two are that Zoe's ending is still very heartbreaking, while River's isn't, so much.
Also, I loved hearing Wendy Padbury's narration again! I hope Zoe gets a second story - I know Jamie's second one is coming out in August (!!!), so maybe there's hope for a second story for Zoe?
::fireworks pop off:: Those are our serial recaps for the week! Next week I'll be covering The Dominators, The Mind Robber (which was my first Two-era serial ever, so that'll be a fun exercise in nostalgia for me!) & my second favourite serial of the Troughton era, The Invasion. Plus, I'll be getting back to watching things, as opposed to listening to them again! Which is, of course, the most fun in doing a rewatch-athon. ::beams::
Previous recaps
The Dalek Invasion of Earth
The Time Meddler
The War Machines
The Smugglers
The Tenth Planet
The Power of the Daleks
The Highlanders
The Underwater Menace
The Moonbase
The Macra Terror
The Faceless Ones
The Evil of the Daleks
The Evil of the Daleks - audio version
Tomb of the Cybermen
The Great Space Elevator (Victoria's Companion Chronicle)
The Abominable Snowmen - audio & serial
The Ice Warriors - audio
The Enemy of the World - audio & serial
The Web of Fear - audio & serial
tagging
- and please stop calling me 'vic'!,
- boyshapes: david troughton,
- boyshapes: patrick troughton,
- girlshapes: wendy padbury,
- i love space dandies,
- jamie brings the badassery in monochrome,
- kroton's my cyberman bff,
- love your edwardian adventuresses,
- lovers: jamie/victoria,
- lovers: two/jamie,
- lovers: two/zoe,
- obsessions: doctor who,
- obsessions: firefly,
- she always did love to dance,
- space beatniks are awesome,
- the great&mighty troughton rewatch-athon,
- zoe heriot dreams in binary
no subject
Date: 2009-08-09 07:45 am (UTC)One of mine caught a tiny mouse as big as my pinky yesterday.
My cats won't go near the really big ones (well, they're not suicidal idiots), but they go for the babies; hopefully the mice will die out from this strategy.
Aww - that sounds quite cute as well! ::pets him too::
As I said, his hair was as long as an angora cat's, so the baldness was even more noticeable than it would have been with a shorthair hamster.
I feel I should also point out that his son (a grey shorthair like his mother) had only one testicle and a glandular problem because of it that made him rather overweight. The poor thing died of cancer and it made me very sad, because he was very sweet and gentle.
I think I could use it for Zoe & since I've no other alternatives (I don't want to end with another instrumental, especially after Victoria's does), I think I shall use it. I like it for her ending. & thinking about it in the context of her ending - it makes me feel sad. Sad & wistful for all of her lost memories. So I think it could work. ♥
Yes, I'm sure it would. Myself, I cannot think of her ending without the song I used to close her mix.
O, O, YES! It would be PERFECT for their last time together.
Yes, not only it describes the sadness of that scene, but it seems to explain why Jamie won't tell Victoria he loves her.
(for my erm - more mature ending story for them, I have about three songs in mind that I'll have on when I'm writing it. Maybe I'll add this to them & make it an even four. :D)
:D
::flips out:: SUCH A THING EXISTS?! OMG!! :D
It does! I once found a music magazine that, to celebrate the 40 years of the White Album, offered with the issues I bought a couple of CDs with cover versions of the album's songs by contemporary musicians. The singer chosen to cover Blackbird is a Scottish woman who sings in Gaelic only, and she made a lovely rendition of it. Since I've seen Blackbird be used in a Victoria mix made by a friend (which you can find here), I think this would work well for Jamie/Victoria.
(And in case you want to see it, my friend also made a mix for One/Cameca.)
She does do creepy very well - I always thought both Precious Things & Little Earthquakes, two of my absolute favourite songs of hers, were a bit creepy, especially the last one.
Yes, those have a certain creepiness to them as well.
I have ONE OTHER SONG I could use for Zoe - it's called Hated Because of Great Qualities by Blonde Redhead
Yes, there are aspects of the song that I think would fit for Zoe. I still like Gold Dust better, though. *shrugs*
On a somewhat related note, are you familiar with Feargal Sharkey's two relationship songs? He and Maria McKee decided that each would write a song depicting each side of a relationship (Feargal wrote from the man's perspective, and Maria from the woman's), and then he'd record the two of them. They both became huge hits, though the woman's POV song, A Good Heart, is the one people remember best. I'm thinking of using the two of them on a shippy mix one day - though not for Jamie/Victoria because the man's POV song, You Little Thief, is a little bit aggressive; the man is reacting badly to the fact that the woman has allowed him to let him love her, and it's killing him inside. There's a great moment in the song where the man is trying to attack the woman verbally but finds it impossible and ends up very tenderly calling her a little girl.
no subject
Date: 2009-08-09 11:01 am (UTC)EEK! ::scampers up the dresser:: This one is small, but still - RODENT. IN MY LIVING QUARTERS. WHERE I SLEEP. DO NOT WANT.
As I said, his hair was as long as an angora cat's, so the baldness was even more noticeable than it would have been with a shorthair hamster.
Aww. I didn't know hamsters COULD go bald, much less have hair as long as an angora kitty's hair! But it IS very sad to hear about his son. :( I'm sorry.
Yes, I'm sure it would. Myself, I cannot think of her ending without the song I used to close her mix.
That was a good one you chose - very apt & sad at once. I wish I had such an easier time with her ending song.
Yes, not only it describes the sadness of that scene, but it seems to explain why Jamie won't tell Victoria he loves her.
Agreed - & it makes me quite sad to think of it for them. They were also so lovely & very tragic in the end.
It does! I once found a music magazine that, to celebrate the 40 years of the White Album, offered with the issues I bought a couple of CDs with cover versions of the album's songs by contemporary musicians. The singer chosen to cover Blackbird is a Scottish woman who sings in Gaelic only, and she made a lovely rendition of it.
O my! I'd never heard of that cover before & I'll see about getting that Victoria mix next week! It looks quite good. :D (& I'll get the second one after I see The Aztecs.)
Yes, those have a certain creepiness to them as well.
They definitely do, but they're just my favourites ever of hers - her first album is one of my top three favourites of hers. (I have everything by her except her newest album, but I love her older stuff so much. It's very beautiful.)
Yes, there are aspects of the song that I think would fit for Zoe. I still like Gold Dust better, though. *shrugs*
I'll listen to both, but it's a fair bet that I'll end up with Gold Dust - I think it's the best of the lot.
& it may amuse you to know that the last song I suggested came from a River Tam mix. :D
On a somewhat related note, are you familiar with Feargal Sharkey's two relationship songs? He and Maria McKee decided that each would write a song depicting each side of a relationship (Feargal wrote from the man's perspective, and Maria from the woman's), and then he'd record the two of them.
I actually hadn't, til you mentioned them! But they both sound quite nice - & I like the concept of the double recordings. :D
no subject
Date: 2009-08-09 12:12 pm (UTC)A quick Google search has shown me that they're indeed called angora hamsters. Mine looked a little bit like this little critter, but totally white:
And yes, his baldness caught me by surprise as well.
O my! I'd never heard of that cover before
I doubt it was released commercially outside the magazine.
I have everything by her except her newest album, but I love her older stuff so much. It's very beautiful.
I think I only have Little Eathquakes and Strange Little Girls, myself.
& it may amuse you to know that the last song I suggested came from a River Tam mix. :D
Hm, now that you mention it, it makes some sense.
I actually hadn't, til you mentioned them! But they both sound quite nice - & I like the concept of the double recordings. :D
Yes, they're both lovely songs, and the concept of songs showing the two sides of the same relationship is an interesting one.
Here are the lyrics, in case you're curious:
From the woman's POV, A Good Heart:
And from the man's POV, You Little Thief:
As you can see they're not for Jamie/Victoria, but they're both so beautiful and catchy I'm trying to find a ship they'd fit into so that I can use them in a mix.
no subject
Date: 2009-08-10 10:50 am (UTC)OMG! That is the sweetest looking hamster I've ever seen! Aww, that would be a sweet little pet. ♥
I think I only have Little Eathquakes and Strange Little Girls, myself.
Ooo, I love Little Earthquakes so much. Strange Little Girls is also a nice one, but her older stuff is just stunning, I think. ♥ Under The Pink has some of her most beautiful songs on it, I think. & so does From The Choirgirl Hotel, my second favourite!
Hm, now that you mention it, it makes some sense.
There are a surprising amount of parallels between Zoe & River, like we talked about before. Some of River's music could work for Zoe, I think - & hee, River is the only other character I have MULTIPLE fanmixes of, after Jamie. ^_^
Yes, they're both lovely songs, and the concept of songs showing the two sides of the same relationship is an interesting one.
Indeed! & thankyou for the lyrics - they are quite lovely, even though they couldn't be for Jamie & Victoria, alas. But still, I'm sure you'll find the right ship for it when the time comes. :D
no subject
Date: 2009-08-10 10:55 am (UTC)They are very sweet, yes - and if mine is a typical example of this type of hamsters, then they're also incredibly clever.
Under The Pink has some of her most beautiful songs on it, I think. & so does From The Choirgirl Hotel, my second favourite!
Ooh, yhanks for the recs. :D
There are a surprising amount of parallels between Zoe & River, like we talked about before. Some of River's music could work for Zoe, I think
Yes, there are, and so it does make sense that some songs could work for the two of them.
But still, I'm sure you'll find the right ship for it when the time comes. :D
If I was to stick with Doctor Who, I think they might work well with Tosh and Owen from Torchwood. *shrugs* I'll see if I can come up with any other pairing.
no subject
Date: 2009-08-10 12:15 pm (UTC)O, splendid! My cousin has a hamster, that, rather to his chagrin, bites very hard when you pick him up, so he's pretty much alone. I shall mention this sweet little breed to them!
Ooh, yhanks for the recs. :D
You're most welcome! Another rec for you - my VERY first album of hers, when I was thirteen: Boys For Pele. It has some of her loveliest & occasionally, rather angry songs on it. It's possibly my fourth favourite. (so hard to choose with her!)
Yes, there are, and so it does make sense that some songs could work for the two of them.
Isn't it odd? But in a good way, of course! I do think that something like Zoe is easily what River could have become, had her brain not been taken to bits. She was certainly intelligent enough & she had only one advantage over Zoe, I think - the fact that she was a psychic. & possibly, her own ability to feel, like a normal girl, which Zoe had a harder time doing.
If I was to stick with Doctor Who, I think they might work well with Tosh and Owen from Torchwood. *shrugs* I'll see if I can come up with any other pairing.
O, yes, I think this set would work very well for them, sadly. (well, you know what I mean.)
& speaking of mixes, I REALLY have to get back to my Two/Jamie mix - I want it up sometime soon after The War Games, but I have to RE-piece together the order I had before my iTunes ate everything. This is one by Radiohead that I REALLY want to use, because I think of them every time I hear it, but argh, self is lyric unsure again.
Lucky
I'm on a roll
I'm on a roll this time
I feel my luck could change
Kill me Sarah
Kill me again with love
It's gonna be a glorious day
Pull me out of the air crash
Pull me out of the lake
'Cause I'm your superhero
We are standing on the edge
The head of state has called for me by name
But I don't have time for him
It's gonna be a glorious day!
I feel my luck could change
Pull me out of the air crash
Pull me out of the lake
'Cause I'm your superhero
We are standing on the edge
We are standing on the edge
I think it has just enough lyrics that could be seen as rather Two/Jamie & it has the right kind of sadness to it. (I really AM trying not to depress everyone with this mix!)
no subject
Date: 2009-08-10 12:33 pm (UTC)Oh dear. That's not very nice, no.
Ooh, more Tori rec! Thank you!
In return, a book rec: Neil Gaiman's Stardust. It was written in Tori's house, which she lent to Neil on the condition that he'd write a cameo for her in the story, as a tree. Which he did wonderfully, as the scene with tree!Tori is amazing.
I do think that something like Zoe is easily what River could have become, had her brain not been taken to bits.
Oh, very much so. If the school River had gone to had been a legitimate place of learning, she could have become a genius living to her full potential, like Zoe.
& possibly, her own ability to feel, like a normal girl, which Zoe had a harder time doing.
Yes, that's the only problem with Zoe's school - they prepare the students' potential, but forget about the human factor.
O, yes, I think this set would work very well for them, sadly. (well, you know what I mean.)
Yes, I certainly do. I'm currently halfway through Season 2 (Torchwood is the only show from my .avis I haven't finished watching - well, there's also the last SJA story with the Brig, which I need to rectify soon - which I want to finish soon because I also have Children of Earth and want to see what all the hype is about) and so those two are very strong in my mind right now.
I think it has just enough lyrics that could be seen as rather Two/Jamie & it has the right kind of sadness to it.
Lovely lyrics! Yes, the Two/Jamie-ness in them is rather faint, but it could still be used.
A suggestion, if I may, from one of my favourite groups, The Strawbs (with whom I closed my Jamie mix): a song called We'll Meet Again Sometime.
It has a somewhat cheerful and upbeat rhythm, but the lyrics clearly speak otherwise, and I feel fit well with their farewell.
no subject
Date: 2009-08-10 03:37 pm (UTC)Yes. I couldn't even try to pet him through the bars of his cage because he's a biter, sadly. & my cousin hadn't known that when he picked him out, alas.
In return, a book rec: Neil Gaiman's Stardust. It was written in Tori's house, which she lent to Neil on the condition that he'd write a cameo for her in the story, as a tree. Which he did wonderfully, as the scene with tree!Tori is amazing.
O! I've always wanted to read Stardust but I haven't had the chance to yet. & incidentally, I think she mentions that in the first song of her Boys For Pele album - I think she does, at least! I remember a line about Neil making her into a tree somewhere on that album.
Oh, very much so. If the school River had gone to had been a legitimate place of learning, she could have become a genius living to her full potential, like Zoe.
Definitely.
& I realised the only other real difference between her & Zoe - River gets to have a promising, happier ending. Zoe doesn't.
Yes, that's the only problem with Zoe's school - they prepare the students' potential, but forget about the human factor.
Yes. & the way you said it made me think of Daleks, for some reason.
Yes, I certainly do. I'm currently halfway through Season 2 (Torchwood is the only show from my .avis I haven't finished watching - well, there's also the last SJA story with the Brig, which I need to rectify soon - which I want to finish soon because I also have Children of Earth and want to see what all the hype is about) and so those two are very strong in my mind right now.
AH! You're stronger than me in such ways - I have series two of Torchwood, but I've never watched the last story. I just can't bring myself to see what happens to Owen & Tosh. I too, SHOULD watch Children of Earth, now that everyone's calmed down about it, but again, I've heard it's sad.
& OMG, I HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED SERIES TWO OF THE SARAH JANE ADVENTURES. I FAIL. Big time. AGAIN.
Lovely lyrics! Yes, the Two/Jamie-ness in them is rather faint, but it could still be used.
O, yay! I knew it was in there somewhere & I'll have to see about WHERE it goes now. ^_^ & you know I ♥ your suggestions! :D Thankyou for the song rec - it IS quite perfect for their ending, yes indeed! But of course, it is quite sad nevertheless.
& with that, this silly bunny is going to scamper off to bed now, as it's PAST eight-thirty AM, WHAT THE HELL, so this beanbag brain should sleep & return when she has COHERENT observations to make. :P ::snugs:: I.L.Y.!
no subject
Date: 2009-08-10 05:04 pm (UTC)That's very sad - for both your cousin and the hamster. :(
O! I've always wanted to read Stardust but I haven't had the chance to yet.
You should - it's a lovely story.
& incidentally, I think she mentions that in the first song of her Boys For Pele album - I think she does, at least! I remember a line about Neil making her into a tree somewhere on that album.
Well, if Neil's comments on the acknowledgments are correct, she's the one who asked to be a tree. :D
& I realised the only other real difference between her & Zoe - River gets to have a promising, happier ending. Zoe doesn't.
Well, Zoe's future is open enough for us to imagine anything we want. I'm sure you'll enjoy what will happen to her in the Fourteenverse - though I know for certain that another canon Who character is probably not very pleased with my giving her that future. :P
Yes. & the way you said it made me think of Daleks, for some reason.
It makes you wonder who is behind that school of hers... *shudders*
AH! You're stronger than me in such ways - I have series two of Torchwood, but I've never watched the last story. I just can't bring myself to see what happens to Owen & Tosh.
I don't have that problem because I never warmed to the Torchwood gang as much as I did with the cast from the other two shows. However, while I found them absolutely infuriating in season 1 (Owen especially) I think they're much more tolerable in season 2, which makes me feel I might not end up with my eyes dry when I get to that final episode.
I too, SHOULD watch Children of Earth, now that everyone's calmed down about it, but again, I've heard it's sad.
I know how the story goes, and I can tell you it's absolutely devastating. I can understand why the fans are so angry at RTD - again.
& OMG, I HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED SERIES TWO OF THE SARAH JANE ADVENTURES. I FAIL. Big time. AGAIN.
Oh, I highly recommend it. Maria might not be around as much, but the others are still in contact with her so even though she's gone it's as if she wasn't, if I make myself clear; if not, here's a way to explain - the real reason why Maria left is because the actress wanted to take a break so that she could focus on her exams, and so they're leaving a door open in case there's a third series and she's once again available. And even if she doesn't come back, we now have Rani, who is made of awesome. I still wish RTD had have given her another name because this one calls for all sort of misunderstandings, but apart from that she's great - while Maria was sweet and gentle, Rani is like a mini-Sarah Jane, with all the greatness that entails. Plus she has a kind and caring mother, which is a change in the RTDverse, where all the mothers (Jackie, Francine, Sylvia, Chrissie) are overbearing and insufferable in one way or another (even if they all - apart from Sylvia, that is - end up showing redeeming qualities). Methinks Rusty has mother issues. Anyway, Gita Chandra is an exception in RTD's collection of mothers, and I love her for it. She's also the focus of one of the SJA continuity problems that bugs me the most: she calls Sarah Jane "Sarah", and Sarah Jane seems bothered by it, as if people calling her by her first name only was disturbing; however, since in the original series Three, Four and Harry called her just "Sarah" all the time and she was never bothered by it, this bugs me since it's clear that being addressed as such by anyone is what really disturbs her, rather than having Gita specifically saying it. *shrugs*
no subject
Date: 2009-08-11 09:03 am (UTC)I always feel bad for the poor thing - no one goes near it for fun since he's got such sharp teeth. :(
You should - it's a lovely story.
I shall one day! Though I've heard the movie adaptation isn't the best. Hmm. ::thinkythink::
Well, if Neil's comments on the acknowledgments are correct, she's the one who asked to be a tree. :D
If I remember that bit right, I think it goes 'Neil's making me a tree'. But Tree!Tori! I want to seeeeeee. :D
Well, Zoe's future is open enough for us to imagine anything we want. I'm sure you'll enjoy what will happen to her in the Fourteenverse - though I know for certain that another canon Who character is probably not very pleased with my giving her that future. :P
Well, yes, it is, but still . . . I don't feel like it's much of a happy ending, having one's memory erased & never knowing all the amazing things you did on so many worlds. But um, soon I'll get to read the Fourteenverse & see Zoe's future! :D
It makes you wonder who is behind that school of hers... *shudders*
OI! ::shudders:: That's some creepy ponderings right there . . . O_O
I don't have that problem because I never warmed to the Torchwood gang as much as I did with the cast from the other two shows. However, while I found them absolutely infuriating in season 1 (Owen especially) I think they're much more tolerable in season 2, which makes me feel I might not end up with my eyes dry when I get to that final episode.
O yes - I love series two far more than series one myself, because that was where my first episodes of Torchwood came from, but series one has some nice episodes, though, um . . . not a lot. But there's Gwen! Who I love! :D
& because I was quite fond of both Owen & Tosh, I just couldn't & still can't bring myself to watch their last episode. It'd be too much. :(
I know how the story goes, and I can tell you it's absolutely devastating. I can understand why the fans are so angry at RTD - again.
I'm a bit fuzzy on some of the details, but I know who dies (& I'm not that . . . caring on that aspect. I have no heart, I suppose.) & a couple of tiny details, but beyond that I don't know a thing about it.
& I'm still confused on how the HELL Torchwood gets a third series with that death. Like . . . HUH? Seriously!
no subject
Date: 2009-08-11 09:09 am (UTC)I haven't seen the movie yet, so I cannot say - though I know I wouldn't have cast Claire Danes as the leading lady, as she doesn't look as ethereal as the character demands.
If I remember that bit right, I think it goes 'Neil's making me a tree'. But Tree!Tori! I want to seeeeeee. :D
Tree!Tori is made of win. :D
Well, yes, it is, but still . . . I don't feel like it's much of a happy ending, having one's memory erased & never knowing all the amazing things you did on so many worlds.
Yes, but... what if the memories return? With Zoe at least, it looks as if it's possible.
But there's Gwen! Who I love! :D
Yay for a Gwen fan! I honestly cannot understand the Gwen hate, or the people who say she's to Torchwood what Rose is to New Who. *eyeroll*
& I'm still confused on how the HELL Torchwood gets a third series with that death. Like . . . HUH? Seriously!
That's RTD all over. *sighs*
no subject
Date: 2009-08-11 11:44 am (UTC)Nor have I, but I do agree with you - Claire Danes is a bit too grounded-seeming for me - Liv Tyler has more a more ethereal quality, I think. Or at least she's supposed to, from the pictures I've seen of her in the Lord of the Rings films.
Tree!Tori is made of win. :D
& you know, I think I could see her as a tree, actually. ^__^
Yes, but... what if the memories return? With Zoe at least, it looks as if it's possible.
They could . . . but they also could not, at the same time. It's all so sad, really. Though I do want to think that she could remember, like maybe Jamie could, one day.
Yay for a Gwen fan! I honestly cannot understand the Gwen hate, or the people who say she's to Torchwood what Rose is to New Who. *eyeroll*
Gwen is LOVE! ::bubbles:: I don't understand why people hate her either - she's really the nicest person on her whole team & the one with the most heart, I think. & she's NOTHING like Rose! Rose IS irritating on many occasions - Gwen, I don't find irritating. People are weird. ::shakes head::
That's RTD all over. *sighs*
Yes . . . giving us all headaches with very little effort. -____- Unimpressed.
no subject
Date: 2009-08-11 12:17 pm (UTC)Yes, Liv Tyler would have been a better choice - though someone on the petite side would have been an even better choice, as I see Yvaine as looking like a tiny, white-haired and delicate-looking elfin beauty.
& you know, I think I could see her as a tree, actually. ^__^
I have the feeling she might have been one in a past life.
Though I do want to think that she could remember, like maybe Jamie could, one day.
Oh, but he did, although his memories remained a bit patchy - but then this tiny brunette fixed things for him. :D
Gwen is LOVE! ::bubbles:: I don't understand why people hate her either - she's really the nicest person on her whole team & the one with the most heart, I think.
Ys, she's definitely the heart of the team - and the only one with enough balls to defy Torchwood rules when she feels they're in the wrong, like when she was ordered to give Rhys an amnesia pill.
Yes . . . giving us all headaches with very little effort. -____- Unimpressed.
Apparently, after the season 3 death was aired, an internet group decided to send packets of coffee to the BBC as a sign of protest, and RTD gloated on ComicCon that only nine packets reached the BBC, using that as a prompt to tell the people who were angry at the death to STFU. He also gave a message to those fans on an interview, saying "You didn't like it? Then watch Supernatural instead."
And let's not forget the oh-so-lovely nickname he invented for the fans who don't think Ten/Rose is the most amazing thing in the world... *seethes* We want Moffatt now!
no subject
Date: 2009-08-11 01:08 pm (UTC)Hmm - if Summer Glau had white hair, she might have been a good Yvaine. :)
I have the feeling she might have been one in a past life.
I wouldn't doubt that at all. ::nodnod::
Ys, she's definitely the heart of the team - and the only one with enough balls to defy Torchwood rules when she feels they're in the wrong, like when she was ordered to give Rhys an amnesia pill.
THIS & THIS LIKE YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW. & in Adrift - I really liked her in that episode & how determined she was to bring closure to a suffering mother, even when Jack was all 'back off'. I love Gwen. She's AWESOME. Screw the haters.
Apparently, after the season 3 death was aired, an internet group decided to send packets of coffee to the BBC as a sign of protest, and RTD gloated on ComicCon that only nine packets reached the BBC, using that as a prompt to tell the people who were angry at the death to STFU. He also gave a message to those fans on an interview, saying "You didn't like it? Then watch Supernatural instead."
And let's not forget the oh-so-lovely nickname he invented for the fans who don't think Ten/Rose is the most amazing thing in the world... *seethes* We want Moffatt now!
. . . well, I'm about to be VERY unladylike here, so you may want to stand back a bit . . .
FUCK HIM & HIS BITCHY LITTLE SMUGNESS. Great way to turn away viewers, as well as have them pretty much NEVER want to watch anything you do again, pal. & it's his OWN fucking fault that people want to gouge their eyes out over Ten/Rose - HE MADE THEM TOO FUCKING ANNOYING & SOPPY & JUST REPETITIVE FOR ANYONE TO KEEP CARING.
& DUDE. Supernatural used to be one of my old fandoms. DO NOT SULLY IT WITH YOUR ENDORSEMENTS, RTD. JUST DON'T.
I don't even know WHERE he gets off being such a twit - he didn't bloody CREATE the whole show; he just brought it back to life & ruined a lot of it. Please, SHUT YOUR MOUTH NOW, RTD.
(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:no subject
Date: 2009-08-11 09:06 am (UTC)Oh, I highly recommend it. Maria might not be around as much, but the others are still in contact with her so even though she's gone it's as if she wasn't, if I make myself clear; if not, here's a way to explain - the real reason why Maria left is because the actress wanted to take a break so that she could focus on her exams, and so they're leaving a door open in case there's a third series and she's once again available. And even if she doesn't come back, we now have Rani, who is made of awesome. I still wish RTD had have given her another name because this one calls for all sort of misunderstandings, but apart from that she's great - while Maria was sweet and gentle, Rani is like a mini-Sarah Jane, with all the greatness that entails.
I think that's one reason I haven't sat down & watched the second series - I LOVED Maria! & it just wouldn't feel right without her, really. But I should watch it, so the last episode makes sense to me anyway.
& YES, WHY DID HE NAME HER RANI? How are we supposed to get THE Rani back on Doctor Who now?!
Plus she has a kind and caring mother, which is a change in the RTDverse, where all the mothers (Jackie, Francine, Sylvia, Chrissie) are overbearing and insufferable in one way or another (even if they all - apart from Sylvia, that is - end up showing redeeming qualities). Methinks Rusty has mother issues. Anyway, Gita Chandra is an exception in RTD's collection of mothers, and I love her for it.
I liked Jackie toward the end of Rose's time on Doctor Who & I liked seeing her be kind of awesome in Journey's End or course, but aside from that, I've never liked many of the mothers we've seen so far, particularly Francine, Sylvia & Chrissie - ARGH, I HATED CHRISSIE - but to have Rani's mother be nice for a change sounds good! :D
She's also the focus of one of the SJA continuity problems that bugs me the most: she calls Sarah Jane "Sarah", and Sarah Jane seems bothered by it, as if people calling her by her first name only was disturbing; however, since in the original series Three, Four and Harry called her just "Sarah" all the time and she was never bothered by it, this bugs me since it's clear that being addressed as such by anyone is what really disturbs her, rather than having Gita specifically saying it. *shrugs*
Hmm. It's been a while since I've SEEN the first series, but maybe for her, being called just Sarah is what she'd prefer people she's really close to to call her - the Doctor, Harry & Maria & her friends all fall into that category, I think. If she doesn't have a lot of contact with Rani's mother, then I could see why she'd be a bit bothered by it. (but then again, I'm like that too, with my given name - if I really care about someone, or they're very close to me, then I let them call me by my given name. Otherwise, I HATE it when people use it, whatever the reason.)
no subject
Date: 2009-08-11 09:14 am (UTC)You should, even with Maria gone. The show is still awesome - after all, Sarah Jane is there.
ARGH, I HATED CHRISSIE
Wait until you see her in season 2 - I still hate her, but after that she's now some notches above Sylvia Noble in my books.
maybe for her, being called just Sarah is what she'd prefer people she's really close to to call her - the Doctor, Harry & Maria & her friends all fall into that category, I think.
Only Maria never called her just Sarah - it was always Sarah Jane. I think that, more than being uncomfortable with having a stranger calling her that (after all, Three was already calling her just Sarah before they became close) this is just RTD using his own take on the situation, as always.
no subject
Date: 2009-08-11 11:24 am (UTC)True - & Sarah Jane > most everything else! :D
Wait until you see her in season 2 - I still hate her, but after that she's now some notches above Sylvia Noble in my books.
WELL. ::blinky eyes:: I should see it, but I'll just miss Maria so. WHY MUST MY FANDOM BREAKETH MY HEART SO VERY OFTEN?
Only Maria never called her just Sarah - it was always Sarah Jane. I think that, more than being uncomfortable with having a stranger calling her that (after all, Three was already calling her just Sarah before they became close) this is just RTD using his own take on the situation, as always.
Yes, I remember that - though I don't think she would have minded if Maria did, actually. But I like your explanation better - saves me a headache by half. :P
no subject
Date: 2009-08-11 12:08 pm (UTC)I'd tell you why you shouldn't worry on that matter, but that would be spoilery, I think. Maria will still be there, but not on the annoying way Rose was still there during season 3. Plus Rani is awesome and there's some really great moments for Clyde in terms of characterization.
Yes, I remember that - though I don't think she would have minded if Maria did, actually.
Yes, in a sense I think she saw Maria almost as if she was her child, like Luke. I doubt she would have minded.
But I like your explanation better - saves me a headache by half. :P
When in doubt, blame RTD. It will be his damn fault anyway. :P
no subject
Date: 2009-08-11 12:56 pm (UTC)O, that's good to hear! :D Well, I'll try to get to it as soon as I can - after the rewatch-athon, hopefully.
Yes, in a sense I think she saw Maria almost as if she was her child, like Luke. I doubt she would have minded.
Agreed, solidly.
When in doubt, blame RTD. It will be his damn fault anyway. :P
Argh, yes. That statement is SO very true. ::sighs further::
(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:no subject
Date: 2009-08-10 05:05 pm (UTC)O, yay! I knew it was in there somewhere & I'll have to see about WHERE it goes now. ^_^
Good luck! I know that, whatever your decision regarding the use of that song, the mix will be lovely.
Thankyou for the song rec - it IS quite perfect for their ending, yes indeed! But of course, it is quite sad nevertheless.
Yes, even though it has such a cheerful rhythm, it's a very sad song, especially when you listen to it with Two/Jamie in mind.
You know, I think that, if I ever do a Fourteen/Jamie mix, this song could work as the opening - start with their farewell, and then work on their reunion with the remaining songs.
& with that, this silly bunny is going to scamper off to bed now, as it's PAST eight-thirty AM, WHAT THE HELL, so this beanbag brain should sleep & return when she has COHERENT observations to make. :P ::snugs:: I.L.Y.!
Sleep tight, dear. I.L.Y.2!
no subject
Date: 2009-08-11 09:11 am (UTC)HEE! Mine did too! :D
Good luck! I know that, whatever your decision regarding the use of that song, the mix will be lovely.
::blushes madly:: O my! I'll have to do my absolute best for this mix - not that I would have done any less, of course!
Yes, even though it has such a cheerful rhythm, it's a very sad song, especially when you listen to it with Two/Jamie in mind.
You know, I think that, if I ever do a Fourteen/Jamie mix, this song could work as the opening - start with their farewell, and then work on their reunion with the remaining songs.
O, I think it would work perfectly for a Fourteen/Jamie mix! :D All continuity-wise & such. ^_^
Sleep tight, dear. I.L.Y.2!
::sparklies:: I did! & plus, I got to see Callum Blue in Dead Like Me before I went to sleep! OMG. YES. THE PERFECT FITZ. LIKE, SCARILY SO. :D
no subject
Date: 2009-08-11 09:20 am (UTC)Of course. :D
O, I think it would work perfectly for a Fourteen/Jamie mix! :D All continuity-wise & such. ^_^
Yeah, you should start the beginning of a new saga by recalling the ending of the previous - like I did in the Fourteenverse, where I started Jamie with a prologue retelling the farewell scene from The War Games from Two's POV (the only part of my fic you can read right after finishing this recap, together with my one-shot ficlet The Journey Home, which describes what happened to Jamie and Zoe between saying goodbye to the Doctor and losing their memories). And the Spearhead from Space novelization begins with the closing scene from The War Games.
& plus, I got to see Callum Blue in Dead Like Me before I went to sleep! OMG. YES. THE PERFECT FITZ. LIKE, SCARILY SO. :D
OH GOD, NOW I WANT TO SEE IT TOO!
no subject
Date: 2009-08-11 11:11 am (UTC)As of right now, there are NINETEEN songs collected for them in their own list in my iTunes right now. NINETEEN. Some I'm STILL not sure of the lyrics, some may go entirely, but at least I have stuff! :D
Yeah, you should start the beginning of a new saga by recalling the ending of the previous - like I did in the Fourteenverse, where I started Jamie with a prologue retelling the farewell scene from The War Games from Two's POV (the only part of my fic you can read right after finishing this recap, together with my one-shot ficlet The Journey Home, which describes what happened to Jamie and Zoe between saying goodbye to the Doctor and losing their memories).
O, yes, that's a good idea, actually. I perhaps should have done that with my Ten & River story all that time ago. But I'll try & remember it for future work! :D
And the Spearhead from Space novelization begins with the closing scene from The War Games.
Speaking of novelizations, guess who found a copy of The Day of the Daleks novelization at the used bookshop for two dollars? :D
OH GOD, NOW I WANT TO SEE IT TOO!
IT WAS ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL TO SEE. He crashed a funeral with a friend! & he drank at the free bar, stole things from all the rich people (then tried to sell some of it to another friend) & was generally . . . really Fitz-esque. ::claps hands giddily:: I LOVED, I WANT MORE, OMG. :D
no subject
Date: 2009-08-11 12:02 pm (UTC)Well, at some point there were 37 songs in my Eight/Fitz folder. Nineteen is not so bad.
Speaking of novelizations, guess who found a copy of The Day of the Daleks novelization at the used bookshop for two dollars? :D
Yay! Please let me know how the cheese scene is like in novelized form when you get to that bit. *uses appropriate icon*
IT WAS ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL TO SEE. He crashed a funeral with a friend! & he drank at the free bar, stole things from all the rich people (then tried to sell some of it to another friend) & was generally . . . really Fitz-esque. ::claps hands giddily:: I LOVED, I WANT MORE, OMG. :D
OMG. THAT IS FITZ-ESQUE!
no subject
Date: 2009-08-11 12:47 pm (UTC)WHOA! AWESOME. :D
Yay! Please let me know how the cheese scene is like in novelized form when you get to that bit. *uses appropriate icon*
I shall indeed! I'm waiting to get to the serial first, then I'll read it, but still, HOW LUCKY A FIND WAS THAT?
(& incidentally, due to a Twitter comment a friend of mine made when I said the mouse had gone into the kitchen & my subsequent response, I have named that mouse Mike Yates. IT'S OUT TO STEAL MAH CHEESE!)
OMG. THAT IS FITZ-ESQUE!
I KNOW, RIGHT? :D :D & THE VOICE & JUST . . . OMG, IT WAS LIKE SEEING FITZ ALL PROPERLY & WHATNOT. ::squeals::
(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From: